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Put a flat earthier into space

legend7 said:
But to scale they actually are and youve drew them too big (do you have a scale rule, feel free to check) if they were closer together where do all of the other landmasses go as on your representative maps they are around the centre projector whereas yours will all be on the left side if you inserted them now?
Also they wouldn't be on the clock face where you said they would be either?
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The Snockerty Friddle said:
While I may be stupid I'm not quite stupid enough to waste money on destroying scopes to prove the existence of a curve I already know to be there.
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There is no destroying scopes. It's an easy thing to do as long as it's done correctly.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
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There is no destroying scopes. It's an easy thing to do as long as it's done correctly.
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They are still over 20k miles away.
You see the 2 in the middle I added, that's to scale 8000 miles apart, so how do the other land masses arrange themselves if that's the case, you did say your lemon squeezer and our flat maps were pretty representative of your world layout?
 
DaveH said:
So in summary, we agree on distances between landmasses and cities but can’t point to an instance where they don’t work on a scaled globe.
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Unless you can show me a globe where they match up to actual reality.
DaveH said:
You admit it is impossible to put this distances on a flat earth and make it work.
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Not at all. I said to break down the globe model into what it actually is and you have your answers right there.
DaveH said:
Finally, that is what I was getting at 5 days ago whenI said the evidence is all around. Globe works, flat doesn’t.
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And I've already mentioned many reasons why a globe does not work and why distances are measured on a terrain that is level as in water and also varying in unevenness in terms of mountains and other inclines.

peachy said:
@Nukehasslefan

I'm guessing but when you were a child you went to school and were taught that the planet earth was a globe
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Absolutely.
peachy said:
....when did you think this might not be true?
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The moon landing stories started it all off.
peachy said:
Did you question other subjects that you were taught?
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When at school I just went with the flow as most did.
When I was really small I was told the tooth fairy would leave me money for my teeth if I placed them under my pillow. It was true because when I woke up there were no teeth and money.
What's not to believe because surely my parents wouldn't lie to me and no school teacher ever told me any different.
And then the Easter bunny and Santa and god will strike me down if I tell lies or do wrong.
Goodwill and fear are mixed into your life.
Why wouldn't I believe any of it when my parents told me it's all true and also the schoolteachers telling me the same thing?

At what stage does it become legitimate to question all of that?
peachy said:
Genuine questions.
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Genuine answers.
Pancho said:
It's not. It's utter bollocks.
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And you're welcome to that thought. I don't agree with it but you already know that.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
Unless you can show me a globe where they match up to actual reality.

Not at all. I said to break down the globe model into what it actually is and you have your answers right there.

And I've already mentioned many reasons why a globe does not work and why distances are measured on a terrain that is level as in water and also varying in unevenness in terms of mountains and other inclines.



Absolutely.

The moon landing stories started it all off.

When at school I just went with the flow as most did.
When I was really small I was told the tooth fairy would leave me money for my teeth if I placed them under my pillow. It was true because when I woke up there were no teeth and money.
What's not to believe because surely my parents wouldn't lie to me and no school teacher ever told me any different.
And then the Easter bunny and Santa and god will strike me down if I tell lies or do wrong.
Goodwill and fear are mixed into your life.
Why wouldn't I believe any of it when my parents told me it's all true and also the schoolteachers telling me the same thing?

At what stage does it become legitimate to question all of that?

Genuine answers.


And you're welcome to that thought. I don't agree with it but you already know that.
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"Like you I was once a globe believer then all of a sudden the scales fell from my eyes."

It's like you're reading from a script.

You've been conned into joining the dumbest hoax on the internet by a bunch of gormless grifters.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
I could offer that to you to be fair.
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It's a way bigger grift the globe one. I mean every discipline known to man has been faked for thousands of years. Every facet of life is a lie, from books in the wrong section of children's libraries to kodak faking all their camera equipment, from all maps being fake to all engineering concepts being false and made up. It's quite incredible that they've done this for absolutely no reason.
 
payne said:
It's a way bigger grift the globe one. I mean every discipline known to man has been faked for thousands of years. Every facet of life is a lie, from books in the wrong section of children's libraries to kodak faking all their camera equipment, from all maps being fake to all engineering concepts being false and made up. It's quite incredible that they've done this for absolutely no reason.
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Every facet of life is reality.
However, some stories told about what life is can be so far from reality and come closer to it, and also some may be bang on.
The issue is in trying to figure out which stories fit on which shelves and we only have real access to little physical facts or at least enough physical evidence to accept and/or believe with no real wish to question.

Some people question very little. Some question varying stories and others question everything and believe nothing without concrete proof and choose to accept some evidence as potential truth. The key word there is, accept, not believe.

As for doing it for no reason. That depends on who looks at it and what a person takes from it.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
I could offer that to you to be fair.
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No you couldn't.

You really couldn't.
Nukehasslefan said:
Every facet of life is reality.
However, some stories told about what life is can be so far from reality and come closer to it, and also some may be bang on.
The issue is in trying to figure out which stories fit on which shelves and we only have real access to little physical facts or at least enough physical evidence to accept and/or believe with no real wish to question.

Some people question very little. Some question varying stories and others question everything and believe nothing without concrete proof and choose to accept some evidence as potential truth. The key word there is, accept, not believe.

As for doing it for no reason. That depends on who looks at it and what a person takes from it.
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More word salad.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Every facet of life is reality.
However, some stories told about what life is can be so far from reality and come closer to it, and also some may be bang on.
The issue is in trying to figure out which stories fit on which shelves and we only have real access to little physical facts or at least enough physical evidence to accept and/or believe with no real wish to question.

Some people question very little. Some question varying stories and others question everything and believe nothing without concrete proof and choose to accept some evidence as potential truth. The key word there is, accept, not believe.

As for doing it for no reason. That depends on who looks at it and what a person takes from it.
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an ever committal sentence from the prophet
 
fyl2u said:
There's a difference between questioning something and flat-out denying it with no proof.
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He could see his flat earth prophets go up in the rocket, see the world is a globe, film the whole thing and people like Newcastle Lad would just say they've been silenced but the man, thus is their paranoia levels
 
payne said:
He could see his flat earth prophets go up in the rocket, see the world is a globe, film the whole thing and people like Newcastle Lad would just say they've been silenced but the man, thus is their paranoia levels
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Going up in a rocket isn't going to prove anything. You'll only get so high before your fuel is spent and you come straight back down.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Then neither can you, you really can't.

I wouldn't expect it to be anything else for you.
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Except that each and every scientific, cosmological, geological and meteorological phenomena can be reconciled with cast iron proof, with one model - the heliocentric model.

You can't even offer one rational explanation for a single phenomena, never mind a working model.

Personal incredulity is not scientific argument.

You're a member of a spectacularly dumb cult.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
When at school I just went with the flow as most did.
When I was really small I was told the tooth fairy would leave me money for my teeth if I placed them under my pillow. It was true because when I woke up there were no teeth and money.
What's not to believe because surely my parents wouldn't lie to me and no school teacher ever told me any different.
And then the Easter bunny and Santa and god will strike me down if I tell lies or do wrong.
Goodwill and fear are mixed into your life.
Why wouldn't I believe any of it when my parents told me it's all true and also the schoolteachers telling me the same
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So all of this is because you never got over finding out Santa isn't real?
 
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