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Put a flat earthier into space

There's no such thing as conservation of momentum. It cannot ever be a thing unless a magic supposed vacuum is used.
Oh dear. Fail

Go on a train with a ball. When the train is stopped, throw the ball in the air and catch it. Ball goes up then down right?

Now wait until the train is running at speed and do the same. Does the ball smack you in the face? No. Why?

This was explained very early in this thread. It really is simple stuff.
 

This has been said over and over again in the last 48 hours.

These are distances people are traveling on a regular basis. Hundreds of thousands of people every day. Tarmac was laid, train lines were laid. If the distances were three times what is being reported, surely someone would have noticed. Before children I did a fair bit of traveling and have traveled some of these distances myself. There are no calculations involved. It is measurement.

Say "authority" says that the distance between two cities is 100km and it is really 300km, do you really think things would not fall apart quickly as the new train line was 200km of track too short, as people ran out of petrol, as people planned to take an hour to drive it and found it 3 hours. What about these undiscovered lands between? It is completely unfeasible that we are being lied to about distances between cities.

Which takes me back to what I said about constructing a model. Take a roughly southern ring around the earth and the cities between them, so say Sydney, Perth, Wellington, Cape Town, Rio, and a few of the smaller islands in between. Use the tried and tested distances and join them together in a scale model. You end up with a ring model on your table.

Now do the same for equatorial cities and land marks. You get a larger ring. Repeat one last time for something a bit more northern, say London, Antwerp, Warsaw, etc. You get another smaller ring. Three rings, small, large, small. Now consider that Libya is north of Cape Town, Warsaw is north of Lybia, the only way to start joining these three rings in a model is to make it 3 dimensional and it starts to look a bit like a globe.

Doing the northern ring with London on a flat earth works. Doing an equatorial ring and joining it to the northern ring you made, just about works and is still flat. Some of the distances are a bit off to make it flat, but we are talking about bluetac and straws models here. But try to add anything south of the equator and it all breaks down. That is because the earth is not flat and simple geography points to that.

If you do not accept that, give us a scale map that says otherwise and actually works.
No need to offer any map.
Distances are offered to you and me and everyone else.
They are offered via time and motion to gain knowledge of distance.
It is offered as distance over a globe and that's all it is.
The reality is anything but.
 
It doesn't matter what list of forces there are. The issue is this utter gunk of conservation of momentum that requires no force.
Taking misunderstanding to new levels.

It does matter what forces there are, even if only to rule out your having invented some of your own.

Forces don't matter when talking about conservation of momentum, distances don't matter when talking about maps, what next?
 
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Oh dear. Fail

Go on a train with a ball. When the train is stopped, throw the ball in the air and catch it. Ball goes up then down right?
Yep, it does. And as it does it is subject to a force and a reaction to it.
Now wait until the train is running at speed and do the same. Does the ball smack you in the face? No. Why?
This is not a conservation of momentum.
This was explained very early in this thread. It really is simple stuff.
Take a look at what conservation od momentum is said to be. This is not any argument for it.
 
No need to offer any map.
Distances are offered to you and me and everyone else.
They are offered via time and motion to gain knowledge of distance.
It is offered as distance over a globe and that's all it is.
The reality is anything but.
So you are saying that reported distances between cities are all wrong?

Lets forget about deflection and waffle. Wrong or right. One word answer is all that is needed.
 
Taking misunderstanding to new levels.

It does matter what forces there are, even if only to rule out your having invented some of your own.
Conservation of momentum requires no external acting force on anything in motion. It cannot happen, ever.
So you are saying that reported distances between cities are all wrong?

Lets forget about deflection and waffle. Wrong or right. One word answer is all that is needed.
Not at all. I'm saying the reasoning behind them is all wrong.
 
Yep, it does. And as it does it is subject to a force and a reaction to it.

This is not a conservation of momentum.

Take a look at what conservation od momentum is said to be. This is not any argument for it.
Wow, a complete lack of understanding of the basics of motion.

I'm already trying to explain to you the ISS and distances between cities. Trying to take on this element of physics basics is beyond me at the moment.

Does it not worry you how little you understand and that you make up your own reality to compensate? Why not do some night classes or subscribe to some online courses?
Conservation of momentum requires no external acting force on anything in motion. It cannot happen, ever.

Not at all. I'm saying the reasoning behind them is all wrong.
So the reported distances are correct?
 
Wow, a complete lack of understanding of the basics of motion.
There are no basics of motion with this C of M. It's gunk. It's made up.
Motion is simple. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

The C of M comes into play with a supposed law that is also gunk.
1st supposed Law – An object at rest will stay at rest, and an object in motion will stay in motion at a constant velocity unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.

Both of these are synonymous and are equally gunk. Not workable and never can be nor will be.
I'm already trying to explain to you the ISS and distances between cities. Trying to take on this element of physics basics is beyond me at the moment.

Does it not worry you how little you understand and that you make up your own reality to compensate? Why not do some night classes or subscribe to some online courses?
What little you think I know is of no concern to me.
 
There are no basics of motion with this C of M. It's gunk. It's made up.
Motion is simple. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

The C of M comes into play with a supposed law that is also gunk.
1st supposed Law – An object at rest will stay at rest, and an object in motion will stay in motion at a constant velocity unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.

Both of these are synonymous and are equally gunk. Not workable and never can be nor will be.
You really ought to tell someone, a Nobel prize awaits at the very least
 
:lol: that's not the case, unless you can show anywhere where it's mentioned. The distances between southern hemisphere locations would fuck up any imaginary map you might be dreaming of, but it's just miles or km that things are measured in.
Yep, but you argue the measurements are done over a convex curve unless you're now accepting they don't.
 
Taking misunderstanding to new levels.

It does matter what forces there are, even if only to rule out your having invented some of your own.
Just some general observations.

Nuke denies (apart from those bits that fit his madcap ramblings) science, history, the scope covers most aspects of accepted learning. Yet he challenges nothing that has any personal consequences. For example he accepts what medical staff give him in terms of treatment surely he could invent some safer alternatives.

He doesn’t seem to want to investigate this incredible conspiracy. There must be lots of proof to be had, could he not wander down to Jodrell Bank to see if it’s a cardboard cutout.

Lastly why is he on here at all? I would rather be on a forum where there was a at least a bit of respect for my opinions.
 
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