Yes there is and it's simply proveable.
You're just to dumb or stubborn or both to comprehend the concept.
And the vacuum part is totally irrelevant.
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You're just to dumb or stubborn or both to comprehend the concept.
And the vacuum part is totally irrelevant.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
It isn't provable at all.
Can you prove it or are you reliant on someone to come in for you?
It's up there with "spectroscopy needs to be in a container"
Here he goes with his "Why doesn't a helicopter land somewhere miles away after hovering for an hour" bollocks again.
It's this kind of comment that really shows the level of ignorance and lack of intelligence he has.
We're dealing with someone with the mind of a five-year-old.
It is proveable.
Yep and you could even do the experiment yourself.
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taipeisafc
Striker
But he doesnt have the cojones to say it outright.
Yep the old newtons cradle desktop toys of old for example
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Nukehasslefan
Winger
Nukehasslefan
Winger
Conservation of momentum comes down to one of Newton's supposed laws.
An object in motion will conserve that momentum unless acted upon by an external force.
It's basically offering a system such as a space vacuum where there is apparently no external force acting upon something in momentum.
The reality is, nothing works unless there is an equal reaction to action.
Anything put into motion is immediately acted upon by an external force to stop anything ever being able to conserve momentum.
An object in motion will conserve that momentum unless acted upon by an external force.
It's basically offering a system such as a space vacuum where there is apparently no external force acting upon something in momentum.
The reality is, nothing works unless there is an equal reaction to action.
Anything put into motion is immediately acted upon by an external force to stop anything ever being able to conserve momentum.
fyl2u
Striker
Wrong. But strangely, kind of right in parts.
The Snockerty Friddle
Winger
Mental.
That means it's impossible to juggle in a moving vehicle. It means if a train passenger was to jump, the back of the carriage would catch up with them!
That must be why there are signs all over planes and trains warning us not to jump.
Or
You could be completely wrong.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
Absolutely nothing to do with the conservation of momentum.
The Snockerty Friddle
Winger
Yeah, you’re right , except for all of it, that part.
taipeisafc
Striker
Yes it is
Nukehasslefan
Winger
Absolutely not.
Conservation of momentum requires no external force acting on anything under momentum. It would mean that momentum is conserved.
It's impossible except in the magical world of those who throw this garbage at us to gobble up.
taipeisafc
Striker
Yes it is you are wrong
Nukehasslefan
Winger
I'm not wrong.
Give me any instance where momentum is conserved.
The Snockerty Friddle
Winger
You are.
Anything moving will continue to do so unless an external force is applied.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
Which is every time all of the time so nothing will continue in the same motion, it will always be acted upon by an external force unless a magical space vacuum is used, which negates the actual offering of movement in the first place.
It's just a big old what-if scenario in fantasy land offered to us as a reality.
The Snockerty Friddle
Winger
I'm sorry you don’t understand. It's ok.
Go on then, list the forces, just so we know you're talking about real world and not daydreams
No magic required.
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DaveH
Striker
This has been said over and over again in the last 48 hours.
These are distances people are traveling on a regular basis. Hundreds of thousands of people every day. Tarmac was laid, train lines were laid. If the distances were three times what is being reported, surely someone would have noticed. Before children I did a fair bit of traveling and have traveled some of these distances myself. There are no calculations involved. It is measurement.
Say "authority" says that the distance between two cities is 100km and it is really 300km, do you really think things would not fall apart quickly as the new train line was 200km of track too short, as people ran out of petrol, as people planned to take an hour to drive it and found it 3 hours. What about these undiscovered lands between? It is completely unfeasible that we are being lied to about distances between cities.
Which takes me back to what I said about constructing a model. Take a roughly southern ring around the earth and the cities between them, so say Sydney, Perth, Wellington, Cape Town, Rio, and a few of the smaller islands in between. Use the tried and tested distances and join them together in a scale model. You end up with a ring model on your table.
Now do the same for equatorial cities and land marks. You get a larger ring. Repeat one last time for something a bit more northern, say London, Antwerp, Warsaw, etc. You get another smaller ring. Three rings, small, large, small. Now consider that Libya is north of Cape Town, Warsaw is north of Lybia, the only way to start joining these three rings in a model is to make it 3 dimensional and it starts to look a bit like a globe.
Doing the northern ring with London on a flat earth works. Doing an equatorial ring and joining it to the northern ring you made, just about works and is still flat. Some of the distances are a bit off to make it flat, but we are talking about bluetac and straws models here. But try to add anything south of the equator and it all breaks down. That is because the earth is not flat and simple geography points to that.
If you do not accept that, give us a scale map that says otherwise and actually works.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
It doesn't matter what list of forces there are. The issue is this utter gunk of conservation of momentum that requires no force.
