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an all time hard men eleven

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geronimo06 said:
1 toni schumacher
2 giuseppe bergomi
3 franco baresi
4 vinny jones
5 dave mackay
6 norman hunter
7 eric cantona
8 gennaro gattuso
9 duncan ferguson
10 billy whitehust
11 mick harford

i would love to see that lot play in the modern game nowadays , and how many of them would be left on the pitch after ninety minutes
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First two I’d have in there is joe Bolton and John Kay.
 
geronimo06 said:
1 toni schumacher
2 giuseppe bergomi
3 franco baresi
4 vinny jones
5 dave mackay
6 norman hunter
7 eric cantona
8 gennaro gattuso
9 duncan ferguson
10 billy whitehust
11 mick harford

i would love to see that lot play in the modern game nowadays , and how many of them would be left on the pitch after ninety minutes
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Wouldn’t have classed Cantona as a hard man, or are you basing your opinion on his attack on the Palace fan?
 
geronimo06 said:
1 toni schumacher
2 giuseppe bergomi
3 franco baresi
4 vinny jones
5 dave mackay
6 norman hunter
7 eric cantona
8 gennaro gattuso
9 duncan ferguson
10 billy whitehust
11 mick harford

i would love to see that lot play in the modern game nowadays , and how many of them would be left on the pitch after ninety minutes
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the italian defenders know how o do it in a snide way that doesnt getthem sent off..
cantona wasnt a hard man
 
geronimo06 said:
1 toni schumacher
2 giuseppe bergomi
3 franco baresi
4 vinny jones
5 dave mackay
6 norman hunter
7 eric cantona
8 gennaro gattuso
9 duncan ferguson
10 billy whitehust
11 mick harford

i would love to see that lot play in the modern game nowadays , and how many of them would be left on the pitch after ninety minutes
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Tommy Smith the Liverpool defender was absolutely nails.
 
Lordofthedepths said:
Zlatan, people just knew not to even bother
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Lukaku didnt shy away, Zlatan looked worried to me.
Are we picking hard men as in handy with their fists or shithouse cowards?
Schumacher - shithouse challenge on Batiston doesn't make him hard
Jones - thug, limited ability so kicked people instead, ended Gary Stevens (Spurs) career with a shithouse tackle
Baresi - was a sweeper, hardly made a tackle in his role, let Gentile do all the cynical stuff
Gatusso - hilarious, Souness called him a little dog, said Joe Jordan would've destroyed him for real.

Rush, Dalglish, Lineker, Beardsley, Cowans, Hoddle etc etc were all hard men because theygot kicked to bits every week but still had the moral courage to show for the ball and ultimately destroy the "hard men" with their ability.

Nobody has mention Bruce Rioch, Colin Todd, Bertie Auld, John Giles, Bobby Murdoch, Johnny Morrissey, Graeme Souness, Peter Storey, Nobby Stiles, et al........just about every side had hard men in it during the 60's 70's and to an extent, the 80's until the authorities clamped down on some of the excessively violent challenges, it was a very violent game back then.....look at some of the challenges Jinky was subjected to, stuff like that would land you in front of a judge these days.
 
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nessen said:
Makes me feel my age when someone spouts this instead of the likes of Kevin Ball.
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Well there is also Cana too ;)

Nah Bally was just before my time, I grew up watching midway through Quinn and Phillips time here and while Ball was there I don't remeber him as much as others.

I just say missed out on Roker Park, one of my earliest memories I think was just after the SOL opened.
 
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Kolasinac has to be on any list as he’s actually proven it off the field. Two footing people isn’t “hard”.

Roy Keane also, given he was a talented Boxer.
 
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