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Kalvin Phillips signing for Manchester City

jsdftm04 said:
Okay mate. I dont think anybody is saying Leeds should be celebrating but its a decent fee and it could be a bigger loss like a 20 goal a season striker.

I agree with the poster who said raphinha would be a bigger loss.
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Given they havent got a 20 goal striker I don't get your reasoning tbh mate. He's a massively important player for them even if he is 'only' a defensive midfielder.
 

Not convinced - but we shall see. Maybe Pep seems something in him. 45m is a lot to be making up the numbers, but at the same time, are you really going to be buying a top 10 midfielder in the world at that price? no.

Not sure what to make of it.
 
rocky said:
Given they havent got a 20 goal striker I don't get your reasoning tbh mate. He's a massively important player for them even if he is 'only' a defensive midfielder.
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Okay then, pointless going round and round in circles then.

Simply saying its a position where you can get quality. How much did bissouma cost Brighton for example? Its a loss for them but he's not Declan rice or Rodri.
Chatty83 said:
Who did they have last year that I'm missing?
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Ake, delap maybe?

You can also just name like 2 less players if you only have 6.
 
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jsdftm04 said:
Okay then, pointless going round and round in circles then.

Simply saying its a position where you can get quality. How much did bissouma cost Brighton for example? Its a loss for them but he's not Declan rice or Rodri.

Ake, delap maybe?

You can also just name like 2 less players if you only have 6.
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He's a huge loss for them. He's a quality player. Their best player imo. It's all well and good saying get a replacement in, as we know it's never that easy to get better.

To Leeds it's like City or West Ham losing Rodri or Rice.
 
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rocky said:
I haven't a clue. Why do you think they've signed him?
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I don’t think that he’ll start 20 games as I think Rodri is a lot more accomplished.

I don’t know, I don’t see him developing at 26 by starting less games than he would at leeds.

City sign plenty of players for high fee’s that don’t get much playing time.
 
jsdftm04 said:
Okay then, pointless going round and round in circles then.

Simply saying its a position where you can get quality. How much did bissouma cost Brighton for example? Its a loss for them but he's not Declan rice or Rodri.

Ake, delap maybe?

You can also just name like 2 less players if you only have 6.
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Ake counts as a homegrown player doesnt he having spent 3 years or more at Chelsea before he turned 21. Mind you, with all the new rules and that, I stand to be corrected.
 
rocky said:
He's a huge loss for them. He's a quality player. Their best player imo. It's all well and good saying get a replacement in, as we know it's never that easy to get better.
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That's on the club though. You're never going to keep your best players and need to have a plan. He's been rumoured to be away for a year, they've had time to plan.
 
jsdftm04 said:
Okay then, pointless going round and round in circles then.

Simply saying its a position where you can get quality. How much did bissouma cost Brighton for example? Its a loss for them but he's not Declan rice or Rodri.

Ake, delap maybe?

You can also just name like 2 less players if you only have 6.
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Ah is it just players who came through the English youth system?
 
LJP1786 said:
I don’t think that he’ll start 20 games as I think Rodri is a lot more accomplished.

I don’t know, I don’t see him developing at 26 by starting less games than he would at leeds.

City sign plenty of players for high fee’s that don’t get much playing time.
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I think they're signing him to play games. City play a lot more games than Leeds over a season tbf
 
I can see him being another Phil Neville / James Milner / Jamie Carragher type. Very good player, versatile, committed and very dependable, but never quite making it into the top echelons.
 
Hair Flick said:
I can see him being another Phil Neville / James Milner / Jamie Carragher type. Very good player, versatile, committed and very dependable, but never quite making it into the top echelons.
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Harsh on Milner that mind. He's won the PL a few times, CL winner, youngest PL player/scorer at one point and dozens of England caps. Same with Phil Neville. I understand what you're saying they're not/weren't very influential players at the very highest level but they still had a big part play. Carragher won the CL and a quadruple with Liverpool in the early 2000s too iirc
 
Hair Flick said:
I can see him being another Phil Neville / James Milner / Jamie Carragher type. Very good player, versatile, committed and very dependable, but never quite making it into the top echelons.
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Is he versatile? Has he played anywhere except centre midfield?
 
The stick is a bit bizarre, he's a very good PL player and has shown it on the international stage. You'd think they were signing a complete nobody. Guardiola probably knows what he's doing.
 
HeroHurley said:
Harsh on Milner that mind. He's won the PL a few times, CL winner, youngest PL player/scorer at one point and dozens of England caps. Same with Phil Neville. I understand what you're saying they're not/weren't very influential players at the very highest level but they still had a big part play. Carragher won the CL and a quadruple with Liverpool in the early 2000s too iirc
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If Phillips goes to City he’ll start piling on the trophies and up his England caps. Not an unfair comparison at all at this stage of his career.
 
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