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NUFC and other Sportswashing Spring 2022

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danielsan said:
It’s time similar questions are asked to footballers/managers and also the premier league officials who have approved this.

Golfers are getting absolutely hammered and it’s painful to watch. Why should football be different?
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Money is the simple answer to that.
 

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It's not going very well for them is it? Knows Ashworth, £26m peanuts, interested in him. Signing for Tottenham. Think it's owt to do with the Mags owners being Murderers? Of course it has. People are moving on isn't that right Bazoox? You Rapist loving sicko
 
danielsan said:
Money for who though? FFP was meant to stop another Chelsea/City scenario so would take years for Newcastle to build their brand to the level needed but this has all be compromised by the people who have invested
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Money and image I suppose. Football is the national sport and I suppose it therefore feels easier and safer to ask the questions of golfers maybe, where there isn't quite as much cover and scrutiny.

As for the money, I mean for newspapers, Sky TV etc. In Football, big players signing for clubs, sells papers and subscriptions ultimately. It's all about the brand isn't it. Add to that the government will have pressured our sale to go through for political reasons, and I think that's why the Scrutiny is less intense, or seems less intense anyway.
 
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It's not going very well for them is it? Knows Ashworth, £26m peanuts, interested in him. Signing for Tottenham. Think it's owt to do with the Mags owners being Murderers? Of course it has. People are moving on isn't that right Bazoox? You Rapist loving sicko
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Early days but I can see them turning at some point when they continue to miss out on targets and it will be glorious. There's already evidence of fume over Botman.
 
kingkeane said:
Early days but I can see them turning at some point when they continue to miss out on targets and it will be glorious. There's already evidence of fume over Botman.
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I think it'll take around 18 months. At the moment they don't want to upset "His Excellency" and go with...

There are better players out there
It's good we won't be held to ransom (ironic)
Don't want him if he's not up for the Project
We are not in Europe

Those excuses won't wash soon.

They have given Dummett & Longstaff new contract & their reasoning is its a slow build. FFP will.also have an effect.

It could happen sooner if the Government fall out with the Saudis

You're right about Botman. When they turn it'll be epic & they'll have never wanted the Murdering Bastards in the first place.
 
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Sabre Mag said:
Money and image I suppose. Football is the national sport and I suppose it therefore feels easier and safer to ask the questions of golfers maybe, where there isn't quite as much cover and scrutiny.

As for the money, I mean for newspapers, Sky TV etc. In Football, big players signing for clubs, sells papers and subscriptions ultimately. It's all about the brand isn't it. Add to that the government will have pressured our sale to go through for political reasons, and I think that's why the Scrutiny is less intense, or seems less intense anyway.
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I only started to read up once golfers started to get grilled and saw who was funding it.

Generally don’t care what happens with Newcastle didn’t read any of the previous sport washing thread until this week but I think this is bigger than Newcastle now.
 
forever changes said:
You come on a Sunderland board to simply defend and justify Saudi Utd.
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No. I joined this forum June 30th 2019 which was well before any takeover.
And also I have absolutely nothing to defend.

forever changes said:
Fans and MPs who protested against a UK businessman simply because he wasn’t prepared to bankroll the utterly selfish wishes of them.
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Aye, I agree.
forever changes said:
Used Johnson and his donors to push through a takeover from an abhorrent regime, not because it was ‘good for the region’ but because they hope to become the new Man City.
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With some, I would tend to agree in terms of wanting to be a Man City type.
As for using Johnson. I'd say Johnson will do what's best for Johnson and crew, not what's best for Newcastle fans.

forever changes said:
The shit of ‘they’ll change when they take us over’ has been proven to be an attempt to ignore what they really are and how fans ignorance and acceptance of them is what they want (sportswashing)
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It'll always be that to those who despise Saudis and Newcastle fans and the city and so on.
I think all countries need to change with many many things, including atrocities, oppression, and whatnot.
forever changes said:
If these despots don’t stump up mega 💰💰 then the whinging ‘needy’ fans of Saudi Utd will start their usual wailing and gnashing of teeth ‘wi disorve betta’
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I absolutely agree with some.

forever changes said:
Why spend time on here trying to justify the indefensible to Sunderland supporters ?
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I spend time here for a number of reasons.
Having my say in this particular thread is just counterarguing against the many different takes on things.
I won't apologise for being on here or being a Newcastle United fan and supporter.

forever changes said:
You haven’t ‘got your club back’ You have simply sold the soul of your club in the desperate hope of the shiny silverware you have craved since this manifestation of the club was formed in 1992
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I haven't sold the soul of Newcastle United. I'm a Newcastle United fan and supporter whether the club was non-league or premier league champions.
However, the football authorities have allowed football clubs to be sold to the devil and this is why we're dealing with mega-billionaire owners and no mega-billionaires are going to get to that stage by being nice.
 
Redandwhitedust said:
Not really. There was only one reason really. He didn't throw money at the club.
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Over time there were many fans jumping on the hate bandwagon but it didn't start with him not throwing money at the club because he actually laid it all out and did spend.
It was Keegan leaving that kicked it all off and it spiraled from there.
Redandwhitedust said:
He spent money but it wasn't deemed to be enough to attract the players that would keep the club in the profile that your fans seemed to expect.
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That some fans expected, but not all.
Redandwhitedust said:
You only have to look at the Net Spend debate to realise that.
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Some fans argued about all kinds of stuff on spending. I actually didn't agree with a lot of it.
one footed wonder said:
Of course there is no expectation you would approach them directly and as demonstrated in my post and the actions of fans so desperate to welcome the new owners there are a number of ways in which you and others could show their disapproval, but you know that so not sure why you have chosen to respond in that manner.
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I've never shown my disproval for any owners/custodians of Newcastle United in a letter or physical protest. I've mumbled and bickered with friends and people over many a custodian, though.
one footed wonder said:
I’m surprised that the love you state you have for your club has resulted in you being silent about the new owners.
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I've no need to bleat on about owners. There are enough people out there to do that.
one footed wonder said:
Their reputation and actions will inevitably leave a stain on something you hold so dearly however the response of I can’t do anything about it is your choice and no one else’s
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A stain to those who want to use their selective moral judgment. To me, Newcastle United will never be a stain.
Owners come and go and whatever they are in terms of a stain will be washed out as they leave if their actions towards the club are deemed bad.
What people use outside of that is up to them.
one footed wonder said:
As much as my point of view has no merit with you, your view has a similar impact with me, however, that’s life not everyone is going to agree.
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Absolutely.
one footed wonder said:
You’ve made your position clear on your new owners, you simply aren’t bothered as your focus is on the success of your club to the detriment of everything else……at least you are honest about it.
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My focus is trying to get as much enjoyment from Newcastle United.
Newcastle United will always offer up the good the bad and the ugly like all clubs do.

Fans will hate fans.
People will have different ideals.
 
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danielsan said:
I only started to read up once golfers started to get grilled and saw who was funding it.

Generally don’t care what happens with Newcastle didn’t read any of the previous sport washing thread until this week but I think this is bigger than Newcastle now.
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Course it is. The questions around it all are huge
 
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