Derby County deal expected to collapse

[seahamstar]

God knows how you apportion blame for the whole situation its got so complicated, in the first place you have to blame Mel Morris for getting us in to the financial mess, taking us into Administration and keeping hold of the ground. people can blame the fans for backing Morris when he was chucking the cash about but it was always made clear that we could afford it and were well within the rules. Then things started changing, things became 'murky' involving the stadium and the way we valued players and thats about when it got too complicated for my block head!

The EFL have proved to be useless but i don't necessarily blame them overall, they can't be seen to favour us over other clubs. I dont blame Boro or the bloke at Wycombe although i think both situations werent helpful,

Other than that nobody has a clue whats happening currently. Is the proposed buyer a crook? i dont think so, does he have the money to buy the club? i think so. He was supposed to pay the wages at the end of May but the money never appeared, why is he on Twitter being so chipper 100% sure the money is going through??someone within the club paid the wages, nobody knows who that was.

As for Rooney ive no idea. Is he linked to the buyer? his agent has some history with the people mentioned, is mel morris still in there pulling the strings? there are all sorts or rumours about that. Whats happened to the Administrators who are not releasing any statements or responding to anything.

The sportscene man on Radio Derby LIVE now is saying that he knos from a source he trusts 100% that Mike Ashley has £28 million sat there in the bank now waiting to buy the club but the EFL wont step in to mediate with the Administrators who seem to be set this Kirchner bloke and refusing any contact with Ashley when the excusivity period or whatever it is called was up weeks ago

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It's good to see some understanding of the situation on here, nobody wants sympathy but hearing Brum fans singing about a party whil your club dies while chucking seats at you is a bit rough!
Proper club sunderland and similar in many ways to Derby.

Sorry to waffle on but you did ask

We've only got 5 players under contract come the end of June but yeah fill your boots...Knight and Bird are both quality.

There's a fair bit of bad feeling amongst Boro fans after the way (a lot of) Derby fans have gone on about Steve Gibson.
Seems (even now) that there's a reluctance to look at it all objectively - instead it all seems to be about blaming anyone except the person(s) actually responsible.
Obviously not all Derby fans will think that way, and I'm certainly not having a go at you personally, but it's left a sour taste with Boro fans and has evaporated a lot of sympathy towards your fans.

 

[steadybreeze]

There's a fair bit of bad feeling amongst Boro fans after the way (a lot of) Derby fans have gone on about Steve Gibson.
Seems (even now) that there's a reluctance to look at it all objectively - instead it all seems to be about blaming anyone except the person(s) actually responsible.
Obviously not all Derby fans will think that way, and I'm certainly not having a go at you personally, but it's left a sour taste with Boro fans and has evaporated a lot of sympathy towards your fans.

I don't think Derby fans think much of Boro or their fans at the moment either but give it a few years and everyone will have moved on and forgotten about it. It wasn't long ago Derby and Preston were at it cos of a spat over Billy Davis,, now you'd be hard pushed to find a Derby fan who had any kind of opinion of Preston at all.

 

[seahamstar]

I don't think Derby fans think much of Boro or their fans at the moment either but give it a few years and everyone will have moved on and forgotten about it. It wasn't long ago Derby and Preston were at it cos of a spat over Billy Davis,, now you'd be hard pushed to find a Derby fan who had any kind of opinion of Preston at all.

Have to say I do find it quite amusing - not the strife your club is in.
I hope you come out the other end and keep your club.

 

[steadybreeze]

Have to say I do find it quite amusing - not the strife your club is in.
I hope you come out the other end and keep your club.

Cheers always quit liked Boro up tillrecent events, similar club to Derby in many ways. Believe it or not there are Derby supporters ready to go and wreak havoc at Wycombe Wanderers next season. Looks like they are our new worst enemy, bit easier to go there and take the piss than Boro at least

 

[paws]

Why would that have rubbed their noses in it - we’d be stuck with Ashley; they’d love it

Because he'd probably spend a few quid just to them off up the road.

 

[seahamstar]

Cheers always quit liked Boro up tillrecent events, similar club to Derby in many ways. Believe it or not there are Derby supporters ready to go and wreak havoc at Wycombe Wanderers next season. Looks like they are our new worst enemy, bit easier to go there and take the piss than Boro at least

Yes, there were a fair few Boro fans 'looking forward' to your visit in February.
Things are a lot calmer at Boro matches these days - Ayresome used to be quite an experience (even for us).
Used to like our trips to the Baseball ground .

Bloody madness - I'm far too old to be getting uptight over football these days.

Can imagine there being quite an 'atmosphere' down at Wycombe.

 

[daveybigpotatoes]

Yes, there were a fair few Boro fans 'looking forward' to your visit in February.
Things are a lot calmer at Boro matches these days - Ayresome used to be quite an experience (even for us).
Used to like our trips to the Baseball ground .

Bloody madness - I'm far too old to be getting uptight over football these days.

Can imagine there being quite an 'atmosphere' down at Wycombe.

Only atmosphere at Wycombe is generated trying to get into the sold out car park (don’t use it it’s a nightmare getting away after the match)

 

[englishman abroad]

Hopefully he's not still at the golf

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Things looking bleak

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[Willincity]

Its a tough old world when looking back and those supposed better days!

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[Kennington Kid]

Cheers always quit liked Boro up tillrecent events, similar club to Derby in many ways. Believe it or not there are Derby supporters ready to go and wreak havoc at Wycombe Wanderers next season. Looks like they are our new worst enemy, bit easier to go there and take the piss than Boro at least

There's plenty of time for it mind, full blown havoc can be wreaked just waiting for them to take a throw in

 

[steadybreeze]

Yes, there were a fair few Boro fans 'looking forward' to your visit in February.
Things are a lot calmer at Boro matches these days - Ayresome used to be quite an experience (even for us).
Used to like our trips to the Baseball ground .

Bloody madness - I'm far too old to be getting uptight over football these days.

Can imagine there being quite an 'atmosphere' down at Wycombe.

Yes Boro very rough in the past, i used to live with some lads from Stockton in Newquay in the early 90's who were a bit edgy to say the least

Good to see a few new grounds after Preston, Blackburn, Brum, Millwall, Bristol City etc. All decent enough away days but after 15+ seasons of the same its almost a relief to start fresh. I went to games down in the old third division last time we were there, we managed to have a laugh and get out the league in a couple of seasons, got a feeling its going to take more than two seasons to come back this time.

Im not bothered about Wycome tbh, they probably had a better case against us than you lot. Their owner came on Radio Derby and ripped the interviewer a new arsehole

 

[The Great MES]

Yes Boro very rough in the past, i used to live with some lads from Stockton in Newquay in the early 90's who were a bit edgy to say the least

Good to see a few new grounds after Preston, Blackburn, Brum, Millwall, Bristol City etc. All decent enough away days but after 15+ seasons of the same its almost a relief to start fresh. I went to games down in the old third division last time we were there, we managed to have a laugh and get out the league in a couple of seasons, got a feeling its going to take more than two seasons to come back this time.

Im not bothered about Wycome tbh, they probably had a better case against us than you lot. Their owner came on Radio Derby and ripped the interviewer a new arsehole

Believe me, the novelty of going to Accrington, Fleetwood and Wycombe soon wears off.

 

[Charlestonian]

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More problems on the horizon. The EFL approved the deal when he doesn't have the money.

As much as I don’t want a club to be in this position, a club will end up going to the wall to prove just how incompetent the EFL are when approving these deals.

I’m saying incompetence, there’s probably more to it than that in some respects.

For a supposedly modern game the footballing institutions that govern it are woeful at times.

 

[andy78]

As much as I don’t want a club to be in this position, a club will end up going to the wall to prove just how incompetent the EFL are when approving these deals.

I’m saying incompetence, there’s probably more to it than that in some respects.

For a supposedly modern game the footballing institutions that govern it are woeful at times.

The entire Derby saga, including all the stuff leading up to the points deductions, must be up there with one of the most staggering showings of ineptitude in EFL history.

 

[RichB]

What I find staggering is that the EFL even allow the process to start without a cast iron proof of funds.

How long ago was this period of exclusivity started?

 

[Frijj]

Mike Ashley will swoop in, no doubt. Derby County will be playing at the Sports Direct Pride Park next year.

 

[mikemanc]

The entire Derby saga, including all the stuff leading up to the points deductions, must be up there with one of the most staggering showings of ineptitude in EFL history.

Problem the EFL have got is any rule changes have to be approved by the clubs who don't want to handicap themselves in the future or restrict who they can sell the club to when the owner's had enough. Which is why there needs to be independent oversight.

 

[steven]

The thing is that in Derby's case, what's the worst that can happen if they go bankrupt? It's not like the Bury situation where they've got a malicious & deranged owner who owns a still extant club - the legal entity that owns the club won't exist any more, so they'll have a phoenix club two divisions below. So they get relegated two divisions, start again in the Conference North and the fans will own the club. Their fans will have a great time tearing up those divisions and they'll be back at the level that they are now in, what, four years? Set against years of being at the mercy of complete chancers, being bashed from pillar to post by arseholes, I think I'd prefer that.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

Believe me, the novelty of going to Accrington, Fleetwood and Wycombe soon wears off.

Lucky bugger has dodged Gillingham mind. The novelty of going there wore off the minute I stepped outside Gillingham station. Mind you, he does get the rural charm of vegan Forest Green.

The thing is that in Derby's case, what's the worst that can happen if they go bankrupt? It's not like the Bury situation where they've got a malicious & deranged owner who owns a still extant club - the legal entity that owns the club won't exist any more, so they'll have a phoenix club two divisions below. So they get relegated two divisions, start again in the Conference North and the fans will own the club. Their fans will have a great time tearing up those divisions and they'll be back at the level that they are now in, what, four years? Set against years of being at the mercy of complete chancers, being bashed from pillar to post by arseholes, I think I'd prefer that.

Phoenix club will have to start from the bottom. Northern League level.

 

[forever changes]

Mike Ashley will swoop in, no doubt. Derby County will be playing at the Sports Direct Pride Park next year.

Don’t think the fans will care one jott