To be fair, I think everyone credits the improvement in the white ball game but most think the dial has gone too far and it's to the detriment of the test team.
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IPL 2022
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Yeah that’s my view too, you’re right a lot think that. However I’d suggest there is so much doom n gloom around a lot just ignore it
The fact a 3rd choice white ball side, and Ben stokes, can rock up and pummel Pakistan on 2 days notice kind of gets taken for granted
TravellingMackem
Winger
That’s not really what I said is it? I said the squad balance overall could be better with him not opening. Not the same as someone else being a better opener than Jos.
Rubbish-it's the future of cricket. KP and MPV say so.
Although MPV probably can't remember saying so.
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Steak Pie
Striker
Got back in late last night and surfed onto Sky Cricket. Team in yellow were smashing it all over and every thick edge was being lauded as a spectacular powerful fantastic shot.
Lasted 5 minutes, turned over to MLS.
And did I see right, 800 sixes in about 40 games? All seems utterly pointless.
Saw on SSN an England player (might have been Livingstone or Buttler, can't remember) standing outside off stump to a bowler coming left arm over, and getting bowled behind their legs. Just silly.
Lasted 5 minutes, turned over to MLS.
And did I see right, 800 sixes in about 40 games? All seems utterly pointless.
Saw on SSN an England player (might have been Livingstone or Buttler, can't remember) standing outside off stump to a bowler coming left arm over, and getting bowled behind their legs. Just silly.
Silly Point
Striker
Same as usual, watched it a bit when it first started but it just goes on too long! Turned my attention to watching all you play off clubs slog it out every night now 
Trying to decide if I want someone who will most likely take up one of the bottom 3 places like Wycombe, or a decent away day like Sunderland or Sheff Wed
Trying to decide if I want someone who will most likely take up one of the bottom 3 places like Wycombe, or a decent away day like Sunderland or Sheff Wed
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Voice of fair play
Striker
‘ 30 seconds of it’ ‘and the bowling was absolutely appaling’
Guess you seen 1 or 2 balls in that 30 seconds, really good sample size to make that judgement then?
Two of the most talented players in the country them two, both superb white ball T20 cricketers who would probably get in any T20 side in the world certainty Buttler would.
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Steak Pie
Striker
Probably. Doesn't make the contrived shitness of that situation any less shit.
Voice of fair play
Striker
Just prefer watching that talent than say Sibley and Jennings in the last round of county matches who although they both scored big runs actually did not enhance the chances of their own team winning the game just enhanced their own teams chances of not losing it.
Each to their own but loads find watching Buttler and Livingston extremely entertaining
Dexter
Striker
I don’t mind dipping in and out of matches when they’re on, although I find it difficult to sit down and become invested in a full game unless the English lads are on and doing well. Without doubt the worst part of it all is the sheer number of sponsors and plugs the commentators have to do every game. It’s depressing listening to cricket legends trying to hype the shit Tata cars or having to announce it’s time for the Swiggy Instamart fast five.
Liverpool Beachball
Striker
Kohli on 3 golden ducks for the tournament 
If you keep getting told something is so much better than everything else it just becomes accepted
There was also this myth that big bash was much better than anything we had, it wasn’t, the standard was much worse and the grounds aren’t even full these days. Whole basis for ripping up our system and launching the 100
Based on a lie
Voice of fair play
Striker
My observations of the IPL are based of watching it a lot that simple.
A lot longer than having a pre-conceived view and turning it off after 30 seconds.
The talent and standard is good the best players in the world are there and someone like Buttler has been simply immense this season.
There is some good points made by others against the IPL such as commentators do go over the top at times and sometimes mishits do go for six which is not good.
But some myths are wrong, such as you can see fans in India are clearly very much attached to the teams they supporting.
The cricket is great to watch and the players seem to be passionate and give their all to win games for their team.
To many draws imo in the county championship this season for my liking.
For example do opening batsman in the county championship in the first innings of matches once they have batted 35/40 overs for say 50 runs say to themselves, I have my eye in it’s a good wicket I will now push on to score more quickly to allow more time for my team to take 20 wickets to win the game for my team.
Or do they just continue to plod on at the same rate and think more about their own score than winning a match for their team?
Is there enough emphasis on try to win games as seems to many draws to me and don’t think good for cricket
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Steak Pie
Striker
Up to you. Shame you can't take pleasure out of the craft, but there you go. And also completely incorrect as the Lancs v Warks match lost about 50 overs to rain and would have been a result otherwise.
I can't be arsed with the IPL and all the bullshit that goes with it, but it was that one situation that caught my eye. And it was just stupid, just completely contrived bollocks. And it was obviously stupid, and to have to commentators go on about how brilliant it was made it even more stupid.
You have to wonder where they go next as we're already seeing 15+ sixes a match and scores of 200 becoming the norm. They can't really make the wickets any flatter, there's not much more they can do to make the playing conditions more batsman friendly, or the boundaries any shorter. I reckon it will be targets in the stands for extra runs or powerplays where boundaries count double or some such shit.
I've watched it a lot before like, no need to patronise me.
You dont sound a big cricket fan tbh based on this post.
Voice of fair play
Striker
I do think you have a point to a certain extent commentators do go over the top that is no doubt.
But it’s entirely unfair not the accept the tremendous skills that are not only on show but what I been developed during the years during the tournament.
Even though the Warks Lancs match did lose them overs not sure they would have been a result they certainly should off with the relatively low scores.
Problem been imo two ex-international opening batsman scored their runs at a very slow pace, did they at any point once they were well in and set consider upping their rate to give their bowlers more chance to take 20 wickets hence giving their team more chance to win the game?
It’s a question worth asking imo, do opening batsman of teams think like that in first innings of matches?
I am not sure they do to be honest and even given another 50 overs looking at that score could not have seen a result
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Steak Pie
Striker
Always ask the question, but 4 day cricket isn't about smacking a rock hard ball with a thin seam to all parts of a tiny ground.
I'm not being unfair or not accepting some of the developments T20 cricket has brought. It's my least favourite format as it lacks the nuance of 'proper' cricket, but I'll watch it if Durham or England are playing.
But you've said yourself that it's all about hitting sixes. So as we get to a point where we see one almost every over, where do they go next? The game is built on foundations of sand and perpetuated by outrageous PR and calling everything brilliant, world class, unbelievable or whatever. At some point it all becomes normal and boring.
Voice of fair play
Striker
Yeah I do get your last point we have to be careful that it does not go too much of the other way with it been too batsman friendly as it then becomes boring for some guess it has for you
And yes admittedly some commentators go way over the top.
The 4 day cricket game should still be about winning games and putting your team before personal gain and you should be positive to look for a win over a draw.
It’s not about smacking the ball to all parts it’s about assessing a game a wicket and upping your rate when you well set to give your team more time to bowl the opposition out.
Not sure that happens enough think some batsman especially the game I mentioned just plod along at the same pace.
Points systems in championship cricket imo should be as heavily based as possible to encourage teams to win games rather than settle for draws.
The Middlesex v Sussex game showed that possible to be positive and win games with good positive cricket
And was a brilliant advert for 4 day cricket
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T20 works in England, and it sells out everywhere, as you are watching your local side with your mates on a friday or saturday night.
thats T20 for me, a bit of fun not to be taken seriously at all.
Test cricket rules in England and always will
