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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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UpTheDuff said:
Then he loses the main source of income for Russia.

And Germany etc would have to find some short term alternatives.

It might make the oligarchs who own Gazprom etc to finally do something about Putin.
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They’ll just sell to China instead. They will buy whatever excess energy is going in the market.
 
Scotty said:
i'm struggling to actually think of any of Churchill's actual schemes that did work

Dieppe - no
Soft Underbelly - no
Greek diversion - no

and thats WW2

and can you cite any historians and strategists that claim Unthinkable was a viable scheme - cos the Order of Battle of the Western Allies and the Soviets in 1945 would lead me to believe the odds for the WA were'nt good

I''ve said it before on this thread - by late 44 / 45 the Soviets were the undisputed masters of the combined arms offensive
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True story. In WW1 before the race to the sea had begun and with the German advance on Paris stalled. Churchill sent a number of Welsh speaking troops to an open Belgian port. At the railway station the local station master heard the Welsh speaking and thought it was Russian. So a rumour began and it spread like wildfire that the Russians had sent troops to the Western Front. This rumour became so widespread that it reached German high command and they panicked. So thinking they could be attacked from behind, the race to the sea began with each army outflanking the other until there was no more ground and the Battle of Ypres began.

I would also add Churchill was very involved in promoting the Tank.
 
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UpTheDuff said:
Then he loses the main source of income for Russia.

And Germany etc would have to find some short term alternatives.

It might make the oligarchs who own Gazprom etc to finally do something about Putin.
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Germany has enough gas in storage to see it into Spring.
 
Scotty said:
i'm struggling to actually think of any of Churchill's actual schemes that did work

Dieppe - no
Soft Underbelly - no
Greek diversion - no

and thats WW2

and can you cite any historians and strategists that claim Unthinkable was a viable scheme - cos the Order of Battle of the Western Allies and the Soviets in 1945 would lead me to believe the odds for the WA were'nt good

I''ve said it before on this thread - by late 44 / 45 the Soviets were the undisputed masters of the combined arms offensive
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WW1 - Dardanelles campaign - Nope

Madness to continue WW2 in Europe1945 by the way.
 
The suggestion by Putin and his regime is a safe passage for Ukrainians to Belarus or Russia. Somehow I don't think that option will be taken up. He is too much of a coward to take responsibility for his actions but nevertheless should be held to account or torn apart piece by piece by people who are only to willing to administer his medicine. The Russian public protests are being ruthlessly dealt with on Putin's orders. Sooner or later his number will be up, and I together with billions of people around the world for the sake of humanity hope it's imminent.
 
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