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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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I have made my stance clear. I would rather we are all nuked trying to defend the free world than live in a world where we surrender to tyranny and oppression.

Agreed, but when does that kick in? Did you pull the trigger when Russia invaded Georgia? They were free.
 

There has to be a few options between the below two options other than lets stop selling Russain Vodka in our supermarkets:

A) Let Putin murder whoever he likes and take whichever countries he likes

and

B) The end of the world

I don't know what these options are but then again I'm not qualified to come up with all the answers.
B) every time because A) is not a world worth saving.
 
I have made my stance clear. I would rather we are all nuked trying to defend the free world than live in a world where we surrender to tyranny and oppression.

No you wouldn't. Are you going to top yourself then if Putin is allowed to stroll into Europe unopposed?
 
Hard to tell what's propaganda, but when a country that size has a GDP the same as Italy's, it sounds plausible.
True, the bloke seems genuine enough mind and when I've checked through his feed he posts and shares some interesting stuff.

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Cluster bombing hospitals because an independent sovereign state didn’t roll over to have its tummy tickled. Rudimentary and thuggish.

Just read about WW2 man.

The Germans came within a whisker of smashing them to #### with far far fewer men and machines to call on.
Only winter coming 2/3 weeks earlier than normal saved Moscow from being taken.
All the other major battles afterwards just saw Russia throwing men and machines pell mell at the Germans like at Kursk, and eventually, having much larger reserves of men and machinery told.
 
I have made my stance clear. I would rather we are all nuked trying to defend the free world than live in a world where we surrender to tyranny and oppression.
You need to sign up for the Ukrainian army if you feel that strongly
 
No you wouldn't. Are you going to top yourself then if Putin is allowed to stroll into Europe unopposed?
I don’t want my wife, family and friends to be in grief and sad at me dying, so no. And I wouldn’t do a murder-suicide because then all their friends and family would be grieving and sad.

But if everyone is killed in a nuke then nobody is alive to be grieving or sad so it doesn’t matter if we all die.
 
:lol: Stick to the politics thread man. You know perfectly well what my point was.

I hope you don't mind me introducing a neologism.. but what you want is a war wank

You want to work yourself into a self righteous frenzy about war without having to think about difficult stuff particularly about your own political choices and whether they have lead us to this sorry point

That's your problem not mine

Now, if you have an actual argument why not tell us all about it...?
 
Just read about WW2 man.

The Germans came within a whisker of smashing them to #### with far far fewer men and machines to call on.
Only winter coming 2/3 weeks earlier than normal saved Moscow from being taken.
All the other major battles afterwards just saw Russia throwing men and machines pell mell at the Germans like at Kursk, and eventually, having much larger reserves of men and machinery told.

Finland had their air force all over the place man. Bought up & took donations of all sorts of obsolete shite & twatted them. Something like a kill rate of 1:43.

Russia has one tactic... Numbers.
 
Russia has been shown up for what it is. Outdated tech, conscription, bullying, corruption, obsolescence, dysfunction.

But... They have nukes.
Like I’ve just said do we give them more respect than they deserve
How modernised is the nuclear Arsenal
Is the country like the wizard of oz
Pull back the curtain and…….
 
And then Sweden, who also aren’t NATO members.
Well yeah it would.
I don't really agree with the idea Putin is hell bent on invading all eastern europe/scandinavia.
Ukraine and Russia have been close to war for years and it's strategically vital for Putin's plans.
 
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