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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Dilligaf60 said:
We have two Russian lads with us at the moment. They know fine well what’s going on. Same as millions of others. This is 2022 not 1936. Putin can’t do what Stalin did. This is a new generation of tech savvy smart people. He can shut down as much social media as he likes but he can’t hide the truth of what he’s done.
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I suspect the lads working with you are relatively young and probably not skint.
The problem is a lot of older Russians aren’t tech savvy, and are not well off and, they only listen to Putin’s propaganda and he is hiding the truth from them, and they believe it.
 
Hugh Gains said:
NATO a defence alliance, that creeps east after saying it wouldn't, suffocating the Russia state along it's borders and bringing the weapons of a super power closer and closer to it's borders. You'd don't see how that's an issue to the Russians.




Once the Ukraine was brought into the fold through the IMF and given bilateral loan guarantees from the US, the strings were attached. At that point, whoever is elected is beholden to the West. Joe Biden explained how US money can be used to influence internal Ukrainian decision making "either fire him or you're not getting the billion dollars."

In the Washington Post in 2015 by Fiona Hill, a NSC member and European and Russian affairs expert, she said this.

In Putin’s view, the United States, the European Union and NATO have launched an economic and proxy war in Ukraine to weaken Russia and push it into a corner. As Valery Gerasimov, chief of staff of the Russian armed forces, has underscored, this is a hybrid, 21st-century conflict, in which financial sanctions, support for oppositional political movements and propaganda have all been transformed from diplomatic tools to instruments of war. Putin likely believes that any concession or compromise he makes will encourage the West to push further.

We've been playing a game with Ukraine, and Putin made his move, right or wrong. But, we knew the crash course this was on and did nothing to stop it, and only instigated it further.
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This is a brilliant post mate, and absolutely spot on. Putin should be rightly admonished and pressure should be continually applied on him, but there should also be a focus on how the west engineered regime change in Ukraine.
Joe Biden who was then Vice President had his dirty mitts all over it, the US state department spent 5 billion dollars 'influencing' Ukrainian politicians and companies.
And while these politicians try to shape the world how they want it, the poeple who always suffer are innocent civilians.
 
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poid said:
This is a brilliant post mate, and absolutely spot on. Putin should be rightly admonished and pressure should be continually applied on him, but there should also be a focus on how the west engineered regime change in Ukraine.
Joe Biden who was then Vice President had his dirty mitts all over it, the US state department spent 5 billion dollars 'influencing' Ukrainian politicians and companies.
And while these politicians try to shape the world how they want it, the poeple who always suffer are innocent civilians.
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Admonished, f#cking hell man.
 
janey said:
I suspect the lads working with you are relatively young and probably not skint.
The problem is a lot of older Russians aren’t tech savvy, and are not well off and, they only listen to Putin’s propaganda and he is hiding the truth from them, and they believe it.
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many of the older ones don’t know any different J. That won’t change until they pass away. A lot of the younger conscripts in the army as you say, don’t have the benefit of higher education. But don’t forget the country they have invaded isn’t Afghanistan it’s a western leaning developed country. It won’t take long for these kids to figure it out. It will ultimately be the present generation that break Putin.
 
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