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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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I have both Russian and Ukrainian friends here, and also in several other countries. This morning my Russian friend in Argentina messaged me asking for help as her Russian bank card stopped working. I helped her of course, she's not the enemy. Last Wednesday , the night of the invasion, I took my Ukrainian friend for a drink and we spent the next few days cooped up at my place drinking and watching the news. I feel for both of them. People everywhere are good people. Hard to know what to say to either of them.
 

chrismisterx said:
you could use my full quote, you know the important bit about tit for tat arguing.

discussion on the politics of this is fine imo and important as politics has lead us to this point, getting the boring same few people fighting for the two sides of British political groups that fight on every thread posted on the politics forum is what the mods asked to stop, big difference.
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I responded to the bit I thought was most important.

Look, I’m sure you’ll agree with me that politics is inextricably linked to this conflict. As a result, it is impossible not to talk politcs on this thread.

However, ask yourself why only certain things are being pulled up? @Northumberland Rocks alluded to it, anyone who’s ever visited the Politics sub-forum will attest that it’s practically the same apologists of a particular brand of politics that are getting upset now.

I didn’t see anyone taking the piss out of Joe Biden earlier being told to ‘leave politics out of it’.

Nor those taking the piss out of Diane Abbott.

@anitdontmajanow posted a list earlier of companies’ response to the war and their restrictions/sanctions of Russia.

(This one -
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Russia invading Ukraine)

It was a very interesting post and several people have responded positively to it.

So why therefore is it a problem when a number of us ask questions of what our government are doing on the same subject? Of why they aren’t doing more - like these global firms, like other countries in the West. Like the EU?

Why therefore is it a problem that some of us question the morals and the ‘impartiality’ of the party of government given their obvious links to Putin and prominent members in the Kremlin?

This shit is important mate and no amount of crying from right wing apologists is going to alter that undeniable fact.

This is NOT a both sides are at it argument. It’s only one side getting their knickers in a twist.
 
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Professor Yaffle said:
I have both Russian and Ukrainian friends here, and also in several other countries. This morning my Russian friend in Argentina messaged me asking for help as her Russian bank card stopped working. I helped her of course, she's not the enemy. Last Wednesday , the night of the invasion, I took my Ukrainian friend for a drink and we spent the next few days cooped up at my place drinking and watching the news. I feel for both of them. People everywhere are good people. Hard to know what to say to either of them.
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It is extremely difficult. I wouldn't want to put a NHL star in the situation where he has to choose between denouncing Putin or getting pelters in the country.

It may be best to kick them all out.
 
brandon said:
I responded to the bit I thought was most important.

Look, I’m sure you’ll agree with me that politics is inextricably linked to this conflict. As a result, it is impossible not to talk politcs on this thread.

However, ask yourself why only certain things are being pulled up? @Northumberland Rocks alluded to it, anyone who’s ever visited the Politics sub-forum will attest that it’s practically the same apologists of a particular brand of politics that are getting upset now.

I didn’t see anyone taking the piss out of Joe Biden earlier being told to ‘leave politics out of it’.

Nor those taking the piss out of Diane Abbott.

@anitdontmajanow posted a list earlier of companies’ response to the war and their restrictions/sanctions of Russia.

(This one -
Post in thread 'Russia invading Ukraine'
Russia invading Ukraine)

It was a very interesting post and several people have responded positively to it.

So why therefore is it a problem when a number of us ask questions of what our government are doing on the same subject? Of why they aren’t doing more - like these global firms, like other countries in the West. Like the EU?

Why therefore is it a problem that some of us question the morals and the ‘impartiality’ of the party of government given their obvious links to Putin and prominent members in the Kremlin?

This shit is important mate and no amount of crying from right wing apologists is going to alter that undeniable fact.

This is NOT a both sides are at it argument. It’s only one side getting their knickers in a twist.
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Get on with it man. Stop crying about it. You’re better than this.
 
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