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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
The Kyiv Independent@KyivIndependent·11m⚡️National Bank of Ukraine receives Hr 1 billion ($33 million) in support for armed forces.

Earlier, the bank had opened a special account where Ukrainians and foreigners can donate money to support the military.
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A lad I used to work with is Ukrainian living in the US. He put a few links up the other day. Chipped in a bit for them.
 

Could be fake but a phone taken from a killer Russian soldier had just recently sent a message to his mother. It said he didn’t understand what was happening. He was told they would be greeted with flowers and as a saviour and as things turned more sour they were ordered to attack everyone and everything.
 
safclav said:
Yep fully agree, see my previous post lol… the T80 is Russian most advanced tank…. Maybe on par with the challenger 2 …. (I’d still rather have a challenger 2 though)
However we’ve already seen numerous T80/T72’s destroyed and broke down in ditches etc….
Massive losses for the Russians
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the T80 is'nt Russias most advanced tank

The upgraded T80 was replaced by the T90, which in turn is starting to be replaced by the T14
 
bahtat said:
Let’s face it everyone close to Putin has been hand selected by him, not only will they be of the same mind set they owe everything they have to him, they’re not going to take him out
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As soon as he becomes a loose cannon someone will.

There must be some very private conversations going on now he has escalated the nuclear possibility when Russia's borders aren't being compromised whatsoever but they're just being heavily leaned on.
 
I personally think ( much as I detest Putin ) that it's time for EU / US to put something concrete on the table as to how we move forward from here...

To continue this brinkmanship on both sides is getting a bit reckless imo.

The Russians have clearly seen our intent and ability to crucify their economy completely - and would be all ears I would think

So some think like ...

1..Immediate ceasefire / withdrawal of all troops from Ukrainian soil.

2. A treaty agreement that will agree / pledge that Ukraine will remain sovereign - and able to determine it's own economic path free from Russian interference - But will pledge not to join NATO

3. A referendum in the Donbas / Crimea region - managed by agreed 3rd partys- that will pose the question....
Do you wish to be Ukranian or Independent states
 
Slim999 said:
I personally think ( much as I detest Putin ) that it's time for EU / US to put something concrete on the table as to how we move forward from here...

To continue this brinkmanship on both sides is getting a bit reckless imo.

The Russians have clearly seen our intent and ability to crucify their economy completely - and would be all ears I would think

So some think like ...

1..Immediate ceasefire / withdrawal of all troops from Ukrainian soil.

2. A treaty agreement that will agree / pledge that Ukraine will remain sovereign - and able to determine it's own economic path free from Russian interference - But will pledge not to join NATO

3. A referendum in the Donbas / Crimea region - managed by agreed 3rd partys- that will pose the question....
Do you wish to be Ukranian or Independent states
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Surely sovereignty includes the right to join whichever organisation you wish. Nonsense to suggest this imo.
 
Slim999 said:
I personally think ( much as I detest Putin ) that it's time for EU / US to put something concrete on the table as to how we move forward from here...

To continue this brinkmanship on both sides is getting a bit reckless imo.

The Russians have clearly seen our intent and ability to crucify their economy completely - and would be all ears I would think

So some think like ...

1..Immediate ceasefire / withdrawal of all troops from Ukrainian soil.

2. A treaty agreement that will agree / pledge that Ukraine will remain sovereign - and able to determine it's own economic path free from Russian interference - But will pledge not to join NATO

3. A referendum in the Donbas / Crimea region - managed by agreed 3rd partys- that will pose the question....
Do you wish to be Ukranian or Independent states
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1. No chance he'll just walk away
2. That's what this whole war is about
3. Russia isn't a great fan of democracy
 
Alcoholic_Author said:
The Russian economy is actually quite small, about the equivalent of Italy I believe, they deal alot internally and are quiet self sufficient so it’ll be more difficult than usual to hurt their economy.
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They're literally a commodity super state. Aside from oil, gas and coal they (with Ukraine) account for a quarter of global wheat exports. They're also global leaders in nickel, copper and Iron and to a lesser extent in palladium and platinum.

The aerospace industries of the US, Europe and Britain also depend on supplies of titanium from Russia.
 
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Hair Flick said:
A lad I used to work with is Ukrainian living in the US. He put a few links up the other day. Chipped in a bit for them.
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fella on radio tees this morning (lives in ferryhill, ex iraq soldier) is gonna take a van load of supplies over (bandages/over the counter medication etc), dropped some stuff off at bbc tees just now down at the boro.

some good people about. every little helps.
 
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