Confirmed KLD only owns 41%

[Hep]

RAWA represent our supporters. Our supporters want to know this information, which is clear from the board over the last 24 hours.
And our supporters are rightly pissed off.
Alas, you are in a very small minority of supporters (if you really are one), who don’t want to know, nor care, about it.
Feel free to start a fan group who represents what the minority want, and then you’s can all not care about the future of the club together.

You've forgotten to answer the question again...

What's the RAWA plan now - just twist and moan or anything constructive?

 

[UpTheDuff]

Maybe this whole situation just a scripted reality plot for the next series of STID. Imagine one episode ending on a cliff hanger as KLD decides to call The Athletic.

 

[Poacher]

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[Hep]

Letting them know that it’s completely unacceptable and duplicitous to mislead supporters sends a message to them first and foremost. It at least shows that change in approach is needed.

Secondly, if they don’t like the pressure applied, they may look to sell for a reasonable price. Genuine protests, something similar to Blackpool but on a bigger scale, would gain national sports media attention. They won’t want that.

Your approach has failed. Sitting and saying everything is fine, pretending that everything is hunky dory, putting down supporters who have well founded misgivings, has resulted in us being taken for fools anyway. Has it really enhanced our position by just ‘getting behind the club’? No. Here we are, with massive average attendances and supporters getting behind them, languishing in the third division and seeing the ownership group embarrass the club on a national scale.

That has to stop. And it has to change. It’s all well and good for people like you to continuously tell people they’re wrong about everything but that won’t affect any change or improvement.

So the plan is just to complain and hope things change? Is that it?

I understand that being in the 3rd division frustrates people, but just complaining rarely achieves much. It's like when we complain about the manager, he gets sacked, we get a new manager, a year later he gets sacked and we repeat ad nauseam. It's not working, if we want change, we need to drive that, not just say give us change, any change will do.

Protests, not renewing, negative chants, does nothing. If SD/CM had a way out they'd take it today, more protests isn't going to change that.

Can we not come up with constructive ideas. Can we not get 5000 fans to chip in £5k each to buy a chunk of the club?

 

[Mowgli]

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[Gaz]

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This is why we should be kicking off imo. How can a club push on if there are potentially shareholders disagreeing or refusing to invest.

 

[Vauxie]

We need an Awab man to buy us

 

[Ghandi Floss]

You've forgotten to answer the question again...

What's the RAWA plan now - just twist and moan or anything constructive?

No idea. I’m currently not involved.
I’d imagine it’ll be dependent on what our supporters want.

 

[riffraff]

What the fuck does Satori bring to the party btw?

Some good stuff I’d imagine. He used to own huge Cannabis Farms which are legal ower in Uruguay. Sold em for zillions to Canadian medical companies when it became legal for medicinal porpoises ower there.

4 that we know of............. last one was Lundinsponytail which he used a couple of months back.

My ex workmate who was from chinner iirc told me about their forum antics the week after they washed up here.

An account popped up here that week claiming to be a lifelong SAFC fan who knew CM from his Oxford Uni days saying he was a “rum sort” who had the classic rugger bugger background but actually preferred football blah blah. “Rum sort”.
Aye. You could follow every SAFC fan around irl for ten years and nivver hear the expression “rum sort” once.

 

[Flea Market Trader]

Which bit?

All

And your point is?

I was responding comments claiming Short cared about the club.

The rot set in on his watch and he knowingly pocketed the parachute payments.

He clearly didn't care that much.

I agree

 

[molthemackem]

What would you call it?

The Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society

I see what you did...

 

[Scotlands number 9]

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Ridiculous situation to be in. Exactly why peoples pissed off. None of this “we knew, they haven’t lied”. They’ve deliberately worded it to mislead us and now it’s quite clearly hindering any process.

He’s fucked up KLD but I think he’s more genuine than the other rodents. I reckon he might make a move to buy us out this summer or at least his family will.

 

[Sea to Shining Sea]

So the plan is just to complain and hope things change? Is that it?

I understand that being in the 3rd division frustrates people, but just complaining rarely achieves much. It's like when we complain about the manager, he gets sacked, we get a new manager, a year later he gets sacked and we repeat ad nauseam. It's not working, if we want change, we need to drive that, not just say give us change, any change will do.

Protests, not renewing, negative chants, does nothing. If SD/CM had a way out they'd take it today, more protests isn't going to change that.

Can we not come up with constructive ideas. Can we not get 5000 fans to chip in £5k each to buy a chunk of the club?

You personally can come up with any ideas you want. Join RAWA and contribute to the discussion and plan if you think what they’re doing isn’t quite constructive enough.

However what you’ve done throughout, is belittle and shut down others and explained, often condescendingly, why they were wrong. Now you’ve been proven wrong and yet still continue to tell other people (who were right) that they’re going about things in the wrong way.

It’s quite admirable that you’ve the self confidence to continue to do that.

 

[Iwhytedl]

Heard about this in total sport last night, baffling , who owns what, or who pays in … cannot understand it.

 

[Spartan]

Ridiculous situation to be in. Exactly why peoples pissed off. None of this “we knew, they haven’t lied”. They’ve deliberately worded it to mislead us and now it’s quite clearly hindering any process.

He’s fucked up KLD but I think he’s more genuine than the other rodents. I reckon he might make a move to buy us out this summer or at least his family will.

KLD is on thin ice now

he either needs to take 100% or sell up

 

[Kborom]

KLD is on thin ice now

he either needs to take 100% or sell up

As a minimum he needs to come clean on why they attempted to mislead the fans. If he is going to learn anything about business then now is a good time to learn not to lie to your customers.

 

[sir rowell cummins]

There are likely two ways in which this happens, the most likely is that it would damage the ‘brand’ to such an extent that either a prospective buyer would get a more favourable price for their share and they would see sense and sell before their price gets worse OR they take the hint about how despised they are and of how much damage they’re doing to both the club and their own reputation that they have no option but to sell.

In essence both of those ‘ways’ are the same and could go hand in hand towards the desired goal.



If the messaging from fans groups is right, there’s no reason why it should have any negative affect on either. KLD should and could quite easily be made aware of the strength of ill-feeling towards the parasites and why.

As for prospective investors - SAFC has a lot of good things going for it as a ‘brand’ (I hate that term but it’s how these people see these things). So many things about the infrastructure of the club is Premier League. Even if the running of and the playing of it has been closer to Sunday League of late.

The running of and the playing of side are very cheap fixes in the grand scheme of things and anyone with any business sense will know that.

I think ultimately, there are several clubs in a far worse state who’ve attracted investors of late.



I would hope Alex Neil would be the main factor in that. Again, if the messaging is right and the players know it’s not about them I see no reason why it would have effect either way.



I’m not saying that is the silver bullet myself, but the only real power that any fan has left nowadays is to vote with their feet. Continuing to go to games won’t work, Donald and Methven don’t even go to the SoL so any protest in the ground in terms of singing/banners etc is going to do nothing to them. For me, the only way these people will feel pain is their investment and their asset being damaged.

If the ground is empty and it’s made clear it is empty because of them - their bottom line starts to get hit. No ticket money coming in, sponsors being pissed off as a result, it’s the money aspect for me that needs to be hit. It’s the only language they understand.

Money is definitely the only language they understand. Not giving them ours will definitely increase their outlay which may make them think but also reduce our spend and make us a less sellable asset. In a way if the turnover is good the feel good is strong performance is strong the more people want to buy in rather than avoid a poisoned chalice. Really for the price to lower we would be failing would we not ? Methven only care about maxing the price for their shares and protecting their investment. If they truly gave on about being part of this fine club they wouldn’t have tried to offload us after 9 months, and if they cared about our future strength they’d have kept our saleable assets eg Hugill. They will get their cash vile as that feels.

 

[Wearside Wanderer II]

I've admitted I was wrong about the percentages on several occasions, but you've not answered any of the other points.

You've made things worse. RAWA was focused on finding this out, without any plan what to do when they did. Protests and bad feeling isn't a great outcome.

Figure out a solution (and SD/CM leaving isn't a solution unless you've figured out what happens after that). Go and find investors, put a fans collective together, do whatever, just don't whine and moan with nothing else going on.

Fella, yer an absolute bloody buffoon.

 

[Zidane]

I'm pleased the percentages have been revealed as I think fans should know who owns any club and despite my Friday night Twitter snipes at Chris Witherspoon, I'm pleased his work paid off on that specific point.

But from this precise point onwards I would urge caution from fans and fanzines.

There are grass shoots of recovery under Kyril as Chairman. The last thing this club needs now is to be put into stasis for a potentially long period while the complete set of current owners try to find a new set. This is not a crisis club. We are not heading to administration. Theres been some good recruitment behind the scenes that hasn't even bedded in yet, only this last week the club have installed a very expensive hybrid pitch.

Removing Madrox is one thing I'm sure we ALL agree on. Removing Kyril is quite another in my mind. There is a good argument that things are slowly beginning to change under whatever power he currently has.

So I'd say that the fans, the fanzines and the local media that influence the fanbase need to be very clear on what they are angry about specifically and what they want, as a mass hanging could do more harm than good.

 

[Meathead]

I'm pleased the percentages have been revealed as I think fans should know who owns any club and despite my Friday night Twitter snipes at Chris Witherspoon, I'm pleased his work paid off on that specific point.

But from this precise point onwards I would urge caution from fans and fanzines.

There are grass shoots of recovery under Kyril as Chairman. The last thing this club needs now is to be put into stasis for a potentially long period while the complete set of current owners try to find a new set. This is not a crisis club. We are not heading to administration. Theres been some good recruitment behind the scenes that hasn't even bedded in yet, only this last week the club have installed a very expensive hybrid pitch.

Removing Madrox is one thing I'm sure we ALL agree on. Removing Kyril is quite another in my mind. There is a good argument that things are slowly beginning to change under whatever power he currently has.

So I'd say that the fans, the fanzines and the local media that influence the fanbase need to be very clear on what they are angry about specifically and what they want, as a mass hanging could do more harm than good.

He’s sitting smiling and laughing with Methven after he called him an asset stripper. I don’t know about you, but that doesn’t scream “things starting to change” for me. Just look at the stage of the pitch.