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Organised Protest

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LRW said:
I don't care how 'Mag-esque' it is, I don't care how many sarcy comments people make, I'll just hit 'ignore' on them, I don't care how many people do a hilarious misspelling of boycott, and I don't care how many people claim that people who protest aren't 'true supporters'.

The club we love, and have spent our lives loving, has been taken over by leeches. Dishonest, incompetent chancers who have taken money out of the club, employed their mates and other assorted idiots, criticised the fans, put nothing back into the club, and delivered the four worst teams in our 143 year history. When the three original chancers were found out, they just went out, found another one, hid behind him, and pretended they sold the club - when all they had done was add another chancer to the mix.

They have taken the piss out of our loyalty, knowing that our fatal flaw is that, EVERY season since we have been in League One (apart from the season behind closed doors), we have had higher attendances than any other club has ever managed at this level. 38395 of us were there last Saturday. That's incredible. It should also be embarrassing for the owners.

The shambles of the managerial situation, and the non appointment of Roy Keane is a watershed moment. It was (rightly or naively) the last light at the end of the tunnel. It has just been switched off.

Already there are lots of individuals coming to the conclusion they have had enough. I completely understand it, and right now I feel that way myself. It will also change nothing.

The club we love will never progress until these people are gone. Supporters of clubs in far, far healthier positions than us have organised protests on various issues, and they have often worked.

It is way past time that we arranged a protest. I don't claim to know what that looks like, or how it would work. But this is now an existential crisis for the club, and it is way past time that as supporters, we fought back against it.
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Grow up man, he was offered the job he turned it down
 

lozza said:
fact that you would rather sit on your hands than fight for whats right for the club , to worried it is mag behavior
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What are you doing about it? You, and many others, appear to be to preoccupied with those who don’t want to protest. Do something. Organise something. I genuinely encourage you to. But stop ostracising people for not doing something they don’t want to do when you won’t do the thing yourself.
 
Sidewinder2 said:
Grow up man, he was offered the job he turned it down
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Don't know what he was offered tbf. I'm not even arsed about Keane, it's the whole shambles of a system that's threw the whole season away and they are refusing to reveal the shares for a reason.
DufraisFTM said:
What are you doing about it? You, and many others, appear to be to preoccupied with those who don’t want to protest. Do something. Organise something. I genuinely encourage you to. But stop ostracising people for not doing something they don’t want to do when you won’t do the thing yourself.
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I'm fine if people don't want to protest, but the snide remarks and snottiness of those who did is out of order
DufraisFTM said:
What are you doing about it? You, and many others, appear to be to preoccupied with those who don’t want to protest. Do something. Organise something. I genuinely encourage you to. But stop ostracising people for not doing something they don’t want to do when you won’t do the thing yourself.
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I'm fine if people don't want to protest, but the snide remarks and snottiness of those who did is out of order
 
jsdftm04 said:
Don't know what he was offered tbf. I'm not even arsed about Keane, it's the whole shambles of a system that's threw the whole season away and they are refusing to reveal the shares for a reason.

I'm fine if people don't want to protest, but the snide remarks and snottiness of those who did is out of order

I'm fine if people don't want to protest, but the snide remarks and snottiness of those who did is out of order
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fine but no one would be protesting if Keane had taken the job and that decision was his and his alone, not Speakman's not KLDs not the clubs.

They ultimately did what the Keane lovers wanted and offered him the job
 
jsdftm04 said:
Don't know what he was offered tbf. I'm not even arsed about Keane, it's the whole shambles of a system that's threw the whole season away and they are refusing to reveal the shares for a reason.

I'm fine if people don't want to protest, but the snide remarks and snottiness of those who did is out of order

I'm fine if people don't want to protest, but the snide remarks and snottiness of those who did is out of order
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Correct. Agree completely. There are snide remarks coming from those who want to protest towards those who don’t too, though. It’s pretty simple to me. If you want to protest then do, if you don’t, then don’t. Forget about each other though.
 
DufraisFTM said:
What are you doing about it? You, and many others, appear to be to preoccupied with those who don’t want to protest. Do something. Organise something. I genuinely encourage you to. But stop ostracising people for not doing something they don’t want to do when you won’t do the thing yourself.
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Well Maybe those who do not want to protest should stop pouring negativity over it , it works both ways my friend
 
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It’s not just the most recent events is everything.

-selling the youngsters to keep the lights on (Okoronkwo latest to go)
-the complete disregard Madrox had for season card holders in 19/20. They tried to bump us out of refunds and then handled the process appallingly
-putting the season card prices up (suggested they will next year too)
- the amount of staff that have left. This has been dressed up as a restructure and a revamp however it was out of necessity. I notice we lost Dickman to Newcastle after I stopped posting on here. We already lost one to Newcastle prior. Think he was the fella that approaches the families when we’re trying to sign young players in the region.
- the lack of leadership at the club.
- the lack of clarity on the % that Madrox have
- Methven & Donald turning up to the games.
- the club fan engagement is appalling
- the youth teams are covered appallingly compared to other clubs. We don’t even announce who’s been retained/promoted etc so it’s difficult to track players coming through unless you’ve got access to internal lists. The club barely even acknowledge the 18s it’s like they’re a different club.

I personally don’t buy this model that they’re promoting too. I know Donald was keen on it prior to KLD coming in and Speakman confirmed that when he joined. We’ll forever sell our young players to fund fund future years imo. Next year is already paid for when Neil goes & possibly Stewart. Everything is to minimise shareholder investment & to hope to get a lucky run in the championship. Full thing Stinks and it will allow Madrox to hold their shares for as long as possible.

I know protests may not lead to change but it’ll at least make it known on a national level that we are sick of Donald, Methven & sartori and that we want them out in full.
 
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Whilst I agree, we've had the piss took out of us for too long and probably should have done something about it a couple years ago, what are people expecting to achieve now by protesting?
 
offshore said:
I can't see what a protest will do as they already have the money from season ticket sales and we have a fan base and die hard fans that will always attend games. We have more fans attending and holding season tickets than most L1 clubs can only dream of. The only way to do it is not to give the club money but then the risk is seeing the club go into administration. So what do you want? The owner won't really be worried as all he does is sell the club to the first person to put up the money and you get someone like Will story!
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It highlights in public just how fed up most are with the mess the club is in. I’d much rather see a show of emotion than people wrap their season cards in through apathy
 
Skandhaless said:
Renewals ...only way to hit them . They've constantly got the revenue up front to react slowly ( if at all ) to fan dissatisfaction . They can even publish 30k gates despite being empty so it doesn't look bad on data .
If they were dependant game to game they'd have to offer consistent product. I know it's good for the club to have known revenue and I've renewed through thick and thin for years for that reason but at this point were just subsidising crooked millionaires in advance .
No one should renew ( or buy club merchandise) , no matter what the early discount and to get us back they should have to offer double discount once they've sorted their crack out and laid it on the table for all to see .
That's what I'll be doing and there should be an open petition fans can sign up to signaling their intent to do likewise . The game should be up for maddrox , were no longer Sunderland were a shell run by pimps
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They’re running a tight P&L. If they get less cash in the summer we’ll spend less in the summer and we’ve less chance of going up.
 
lozza said:
Well Maybe those who do not want to protest should stop pouring negativity over it , it works both ways my friend
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Its a pattern at the club. Some fans have dined out on the idiocy up the road and at times greatly disliked their fellow fans for impatience and are wholly signed up to the Speakman army and a divisive agenda.

To be honest in their own minds I think they're really believe it better if the crowd shrunk to 15,000 'properly deluded' Supporters and we would then go on and conquer the footballing world.
 
John J Rambo said:
Whilst I agree, we've had the piss took out of us for too long and probably should have done something about it a couple years ago, what are people expecting to achieve now by protesting?
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The club to acknowledge there's an issue and not Bury their head in the sand thinking we are thick. They're scared to reveal the shares and hide behind an NDA, a NDA that only the people involved in owning the club could set. The complete mis-management from top to bottom.

The people at the club think where we are is acceptable
 
John J Rambo said:
Whilst I agree, we've had the piss took out of us for too long and probably should have done something about it a couple years ago, what are people expecting to achieve now by protesting?
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As already said mate, it brings attention to those who don’t know or care. We’ve just had 36k at the match. Outside looking in we must seem happy to accept our lot.

I don’t give a fuck if it’s mag like either. The narrative they built around Ashley’s time was built by them permanently highlighting it. Made a clip of themselves a few times but they achieved far more than doing nothing would have
 
wigwams said:
As already said mate, it brings attention to those who don’t know or care. We’ve just had 36k at the match. Outside looking in we must seem happy to accept our lot.

I don’t give a fuck if it’s mag like either. The narrative they built around Ashley’s time was built by them permanently highlighting it. Made a clip of themselves a few times but they achieved far more than doing nothing would have
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Aye I definitely agree this has went on too long now without anyone or group saying we've had enough. The time to do it was under Short really in hindsight. Just wondering who these protests or planned as mentioned, would actually be against? Who are people protesting against at the current time? Could only be Methven and Donald still being here as KLD and Speakman have just got here really and damage has been done well before. So I agree that fans should be unhappy and absolutely have their say, just to me it's far from clear where they would be aimed at and what the purpose would be on that front.
jsdftm04 said:
The club to acknowledge there's an issue and not Bury their head in the sand thinking we are thick. They're scared to reveal the shares and hide behind an NDA, a NDA that only the people involved in owning the club could set. The complete mis-management from top to bottom.

The people at the club think where we are is acceptable
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For all there faults, I don't agree they've buried there heads in the sand and think where we are is acceptable at all. They don't know how to turn it around yes, but definitely haven't just accepted it or they wouldn't have sacked Johnson.
 
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