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Joe Clarke

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His inclusion as reserve is being heavily discussed and criticised due to his involvement with the Hepburn rape case. Rightly so.

No idea why we've included him, sends out an awful message imo.

Its like the ECB are constantly looking for new years to piss off supporters
 

What was his involvement again? Apart from being in that stupid whatsapp "conquest" group. IF it was just that I'd be tempted to say he may be remorseful and learnt his lesson etc, and shouldn't have his whole career ruined by it. Not that I've been a massive fan of his or Kohler Cadmore's since hearing about it
 
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What was his involvement again? Apart from being in that stupid whatsapp "conquest" group. IF it was just that I'd be tempted to say he may be remorseful and learnt his lesson etc, and shouldn't have his whole career ruined by it. Not that I've been a massive fan of his or Kohler Cadmore's since hearing about it
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He's shown zero remorse that I can see. The way he sees women is nothing short of vile
 
I am Boss said:
His inclusion as reserve is being heavily discussed and criticised due to his involvement with the Hepburn rape case. Rightly so.

No idea why we've included him, sends out an awful message imo.

Its like the ECB are constantly looking for new years to piss off supporters
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I am not sure I agree with you here like mate.

I mentioned this on a thread the other week to gage people's opinions, as it was getting discussed on twitter.

Its based off texts he sent in that whatsapp group, they were genuinelly not things me and my mates would ever send to each other, and its poor and pretty revolting, but should someone have his whole career written off because he was a bit of a sexist womaniser when he was young. Not convinced.

I would depend how much he has changed in charachter, but in general I dont like the idea that people cant be forgiven for mistakes

I think that even when they have committed crimes, never mind just behaved morally poorly
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Only people with no morals. I follow a fair number of women within the cricket community online and they're absolutely devastated at his inclusion
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You have to respect their views, but doesnt mean they are right

the idea that he can never ever be picked for England for something he did as a young lad, not illegal BTW, is a bit over the top dont you think?

This isnt about Joe Clarke for me, just talking generally
 
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I am not sure I agree with you here like mate.

I mentioned this on a thread the other week to gage people's opinions, as it was getting discussed on twitter.

Its based off texts he sent in that whatsapp group, they were genuinelly not things me and my mates would ever send to each other, and its poor and pretty revolting, but should someone have his whole career written off because he was a bit of a sexist womaniser when he was young. Not convinced.

I would depend how much he has changed in charachter, but in general I dont like the idea that people cant be forgiven for mistakes

I think that even when they have committed crimes, never mind just behaved morally poorly


You have to respect their views, but doesnt mean they are right

the idea that he can never ever be picked for England for something he did as a young lad, not illegal BTW, is a bit over the top dont you think?

This isnt about Joe Clarke for me, just talking generally
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I don't know about the situation in this case but in general I agree with this.

We have all said/done some stupid things when we were young and have learnt from those mistakes.

Obviously some things are inexcusable no matter what but I believe as a society we should be willing to forgive and accept people can chamge but only if they show willing
 
Thunder Road said:
I don't know about the situation in this case but in general I agree with this.

We have all said/done some stupid things when we were young and have learnt from those mistakes.

Obviously some things are inexcusable no matter what but I believe as a society we should be willing to forgive and accept people can chamge but only if they show willing
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Aye I dont know enough about the bloke, if he is contrite and his behaviour has improved you cant punish him for the rest of his life
 
As a batsman right now,he should have been in the squad over Pope at the very least.
Me and @The Rat had a surprisingly good and civil debate on the pros and cons of selecting him for England and both see it as him being given his 2nd chance
 
scotch said:
As a batsman right now,he should have been in the squad over Pope at the very least.
Me and @The Rat had a surprisingly good and civil debate on the pros and cons of selecting him for England and both see it as him being given his 2nd chance
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Aye think we agreed on that.

18 FC 100s at his age, 38 average, which at times has been a lot higher.

Plus he is a fairly traditional technique.

I just think its a missed opportunity this tour sticking with Lawrence and Pope, they've had a lot of chances, I dont see why they should get even more.
 
His career isn't over. He's still playing franchise cricket and making plenty of money

Playing for England should require you meet a higher standard. Being an unapologetic rape enabler does not do that. A slap in the face to all women England fans. Hopefully he never makes it past the reserves
 
I am Boss said:
His career isn't over. He's still playing franchise cricket and making plenty of money

Playing for England should require you meet a higher standard. Being an unapologetic rape enabler does not do that. A slap in the face to all women England fans. Hopefully he never makes it past the reserves
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I mean he didnt do anything illegal mate, you cant blame him for someone else's actions.

Dont think its fair someones England career is written off like.
 
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