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thecloughywobble said:
I tend to agree but suspect the (possibly unexpected?) emergence of Keane as a potential candidate has hoyed a spanner in the works....
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I want RK as the manager but if he wasn’t some one on their shortlist prior to sacking LJ, even though he was an out of work manager, then why is he now included on their list?

Yes, it’s great PR and something the majority of fan want but is they really the way to run a football club? If it’s a data driven process and heavy on analysis, surely they should be going with coaches they’ve identified to fit the philosophy?

I genuinely have no idea how the stuff in the background is working or what it looks like. I hope it’s not all fur coat.
 

oddbod said:
Watched the N Forest game at the weekend.......if thats the standard of player in a mid table /playoff championship side ...power! pace! and skill!.... They made our team look like a bunch of zimmer frame using borrowers!We have a mountain to clime to get promoted and a miracle to stay there if we don't sort our club out ..Hiring keane might be the first step on that long long road to mid table championship mediocrity and beyond.
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I think getting out of this division will be a lot harder than staying up in the one above - we'd obviously have to invest, have the right coach in place ( :lol: ) and I think it would be easier to attract players in the Championship. I also think a handful of our players are better suited to it.
 
Proctor and Dodds 100% taking the game tomorrow, don’t think it means anything on the Keane situation but had it confirmed so thought I’d share that great news :rolleyes:
 
I don't think Neil is a bad manager but I just can't get my head around us sacking Johnson with no real frontrunner to take the job. We are in a crucial part of the season and could go 10 days without a manager, it's 2 games lost and potentially 3 if we don't get a move on. Speakman is handling this very poorly.

All of our shortlisted candidates are out of work and Johnson was sacked for an "Accumulation" of things which suggests the sacking was very much planned. To take so long to replace him at this stage of the season is incredibly inadequate.
 
Frankel said:
I want RK as the manager but if he wasn’t some one on their shortlist prior to sacking LJ, even though he was an out of work manager, then why is he now included on their list?

Yes, it’s great PR and something the majority of fan want but is they really the way to run a football club? If it’s a data driven process and heavy on analysis, surely they should be going with coaches they’ve identified to fit the philosophy?

I genuinely have no idea how the stuff in the background is working or what it looks like. I hope it’s not all fur coat.
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It is obviously not a data driven process anyway since we're apparently considering jokers like McCann, Lennon & Neil.

All unemployed btw. Nobody in a job would fit into our "philosophy". What a coincidence
 
The Breen Machine said:
I don't think Neil is a bad manager but I just can't get my head around us sacking Johnson with no real frontrunner to take the job. We are in a crucial part of the season and could go 10 days without a manager, it's 2 games lost and potentially 3 if we don't get a move on. Speakman is handling this very poorly.

All of our shortlisted candidates are out of work and Johnson was sacked for an "Accumulation" of things which suggests the sacking was very much planned. To take so long to replace him at this stage of the season is incredibly inadequate.
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It's an absolute farce. The 'integrity' line has wound me up.
 
Frankel said:
I want RK as the manager but if he wasn’t some one on their shortlist prior to sacking LJ, even though he was an out of work manager, then why is he now included on their list?

Yes, it’s great PR and something the majority of fan want but is they really the way to run a football club? If it’s a data driven process and heavy on analysis, surely they should be going with coaches they’ve identified to fit the philosophy?

I genuinely have no idea how the stuff in the background is working or what it looks like. I hope it’s not all fur coat.
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They should be, but the list of alternative candidates suggests a 'process' with not much more to it than taking a quick mooch down the job centre.
 
sir rowell cummins said:
Are you saying Keane's out of the running?
Also i'd say Grayson, Coleman, even Parkinson (i'd add Moyes) had to work in pretty challenging circumstances ie the owners pretty much shat on us recruitment wise. Maybe even they would have done better with a better committed regime. I'm not hating on anyone really - it's always a gamble - even Keane would be - but i'd prefer Keane. He respects our club.
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Defo not saying that mate, just the other names that are being linked are completely uninspiring
 
Whilst I was no huge fan of Johnson, sacking him 1 day before the end of the transfer window and then considering managers like McCann and Lennon also is a baffling move. I am at a loss as to what is going on, Lennon in particular does not fit into Speakman's famous "Project".
 
Plank said:
It is obviously not a data driven process anyway since we're apparently considering jokers like McCann, Lennon & Neil.

All unemployed btw. Nobody in a job would fit into our "philosophy". What a coincidence
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Everyone has latched onto this data driven buzzword it doesn't mean typing things into a giant ai machine, of football was that simple then financial analysts would be football managers and they'd use their trading bots to buy players cheap, even Brentford who are very data driven still use expert judgement an coaching. I don't like the idea of Lennon or McCann like o think they'd both be shite.
 
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