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Roy Keane

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billybobmackem2312 said:
We need Keano in asap. It could turn very, very nasty on Tuesday if we go a couple of goals down. Especially if he starts the same team.
But he has no knowledge of the first team and he’s not employed to do that job, so go easy lads eh
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Second interview to come yet so it’s not going to be imminent is it
 

billybobmackem2312 said:
We need Keano in asap. It could turn very, very nasty on Tuesday if we go a couple of goals down. Especially if he starts the same team.
But he has no knowledge of the first team and he’s not employed to do that job, so go easy lads eh
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My worry is those two will start the same team IF in charge still by then, purely to deflect any criticism and say 'we've kept it the same for interims sake' or some safe as **** statement like that when we inevitably are tonked 3-0 or something.
 
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billybobmackem2312 said:
We need Keano in asap. It could turn very, very nasty on Tuesday if we go a couple of goals down. Especially if he starts the same team.
But he has no knowledge of the first team and he’s not employed to do that job, so go easy lads eh
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Players maybe need to step up
 
kildaremackem said:
i doubt he knew what the options are..ie he wouldnt have an in deoth knowledge of the firat team sqaud exceot for thr young uns in it...
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Are you being serious? There are people on the match day thread: no doubt office workers, factory workers, call centre staff, etc etc etc who’s experience of running football teams amounts to nothing - who said prior to kick off that yesterday’s team formation is an accident waiting to happen. Yet you’re saying that a so called professional football employee, (who only had to look at a replay of the Bolton game), couldn’t figure out what was wrong with yesterday’s team selection ???😮
 
Pancho said:
How can they be caught on their heels when it was they who precipitated the 'crisis'.

At this time of the season and in our position in the table, it's criminally incompetent to sack the manager with clearly no back up plan.
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Ie the day before they had no intention if sacking him had been working with him daily working on transfer targets and were confident form would turn the corner once new players they signed were integrated.

Then something happened (not just a 6-0 loss) that forced their hand and left them very little other option than to give him the bullet.
 
Roose Bolton said:
Yep. I'm not one who thinks fans know everything - sometimes the popular choices flop totally - but it's very rare that you get an appointment who nobody wants end up being able to exceed expectations and win fans over (certainly in my experience following Sunderland).

Absolutely nobody other than the directors thought Grayson or Parkinson or Wilkinson or Buxton would be anything other than disastrous, and they weren't. To my mind, a Lennon/McCann/Woodgate-type appointent would be of the exact same ilk, equally damaging to fan confidence as it would be to our on-pitch prospects.
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Football Fans are customers first and foremost and whilst the customer might not have the best judgement all the time, they're are pretty good at smelling bulls*** and know when the service is poor.. Directers and experts all claim to be more itk than the lumpen proletariat, but when things are still poor it calls into question that view and is something nobody in authority wants to admit.

Having an Allardyce or Keane strips away all the flim-flam and a club like ours, at this level shouldn't be settling for anything less than 100%.
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
Ie the day before they had no intention if sacking him had been working with him daily working on transfer targets and were confident form would turn the corner once new players they signed were integrated.

Then something happened (not just a 6-0 loss) that forced their hand and left them very little other option than to give him the bullet.
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I think it was Defoe issue as well
ihatethemags said:
He’s got to work 2 months notice as well.
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Not if he’s on a zero hours contract like me ha ha
 
Going off topic here a little bit but I am bemused by all this talk of the "Project".

I can see some of the logic behind it but I'm still yet to really see what it is. We have restructured the footballing operations with Sporting Director, Head of Recruitment and Head Coach positions, but I'm not entirely sure what the long-term philosophy actually is? It seems to be centred around bringing in young lads and building a team based upon young talent with a sell on value, but in amongst all of that we have signed Jermain Defoe, Corry Evans and Danny Batth.

Either way, the "Project" is somewhat irrelevant when the immediate goal has to be getting out of this league. To do that, we need momentum and only really Keane will provide that. Speakman's arse has probably dropped a bit as Keane will be looking for greater control and he also knows that if he appoints Keane, he's likely to be challenged by him on a regular basis. Speakman, in reality, has achieved very little in professional football and it's difficult to see Keane marching to the beat of his drum.

Another thing that baffles me is the likes of McCann being linked. Taking into consideration the "Project" and Keane not being right as it's against the head coach model and smacks of short-termism, what exactly is McCann going to offer long term? He will be an attractive candidate as he got out of this league last year, another example of short-termism? He's achieved nothing above this level though and the ideal appointment for us is someone who can not only take us up, but continue our progression towards getting back in the Premier League.

Keane comes with risk, but if he gets it right, as we've seen here before, he can really take us far in a short space of time.
 
If its not Keane then it's a disgrace, simple as that. Keane sees League 1 and even the championship as beneath Sunderland and that's the kind of standards I want at the football club. Anyone else we get would be a League 1 manager with a League 1 mentality. We'd just tread water in this division for another year and end up right back where we started.
 
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