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Binxy said:
Neither is employing the likes of Grayson, Parky, LJ or Grant f***ing Mccann.
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Why is Keane a better appointment than Grant McCann? I'm not saying he isn't, I don't know much about McCann I just want to know what his credentials are in 2022 other than a crowd pleaser
 
The Rolls Royce said:
I know Keane is no mug tactically but I do think his motivational skills at the time were a huge part of our promotion push. Our goal is to get promotion, or do as much as we can to try and get promotion. I still don't know how Keane addresses those goals.
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You're wondering how a bloke who has achieved promotion before will go about going for promotion again?
 
The Rolls Royce said:
I want to be positive about this, and will enjoy the initial euphoria. But there's just part of me that feels like this isn't a great idea.

First of all, I feel that part of Keane's original success with us 14 years ago was to do with the fact he was managing players he had played with, or against, or even just who were professionals during the time he played. Not that current day players don't respect him, but I feel the 2008 players would have a better understanding of who Keane is and therefore deal with his personality better. Not to mention rightly or wrongly, modern players do tend to need a lighter touch. Perhaps Keane will adapt his style. I'm not sure.

Next of all, financially the game itself has changed so much. In 2008, we got promoted from the Championship with a spend of around 8million iirc, at the time one of the biggest spenders in the division. Nowadays teams are spending tens of millions and failing to get close. Granted COVID and situations like Derby and Sheff Wed should dissuade that behaviour somewhat. The point is we don't have the financial clout to cover up any managerial weaknesses Keane may have.

The game is also different tactically, I don't think you can get away with just motivating a team up the league anymore. There's a much greater focus on tactics and data than ever before, and again I have no idea how well Keane would adapt to that.

If he is the new manager I will support him, and I am ready to be proven totally wrong but it just feels like an appeal to emotion not logic.
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Wasn't that high a spend in the Championship. Was less than 6m which to go from bottom to top was remarkable.
 
Despite a certain section of fans talking the club down. We are a massive club at this level and the stress/panic inside the dressing room towards the 'Fear' of failure, is far greater than most other clubs at this level and it why we've always needed only the strongest of leaders and why we've been in the toilet bowl of history since Allardyce left.

Keane is a force of nature in the game, because he tells the ugly truth and the club is crying out for transparency and honesty. I hope he's learned from his mistakes as we all try to learn from them ourselves. At heart his job is to put 11 players out on the pitch who have no fear of coming off the pitch having not given 100%. The recruitment and coaching he needs good people around him and I think we will the win playoffs.
 
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The Rolls Royce said:
I know Keane is no mug tactically but I do think his motivational skills at the time were a huge part of our promotion push. Our goal is to get promotion, or do as much as we can to try and get promotion. I still don't know how Keane addresses those goals.
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if Keane gets appointed the place will be rocking

anyone round last time will know that

he’s the charismatic charm we’ve been missing
 
The problem with the 'long term project' phrase is it gives the manager an excuse to lose by definition. Little Lee seemed to believe it meant he wouldn't be sacked..slowly slowly etc.
Keano seems so maniacal about losing it would actually help us in this situation
 
The Rolls Royce said:
I know Keane is no mug tactically but I do think his motivational skills at the time were a huge part of our promotion push. Our goal is to get promotion, or do as much as we can to try and get promotion. I still don't know how Keane addresses those goals.
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Answered your own question
- Motivational skills and standards
- No mug tactically
 
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