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Roy Keane

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Laidback Jack said:
I loved Roy Keane when he was here first time but I think it's the wrong move. We're letting heart rule head.

It's fine with Defoe but not with an important managerial decision.
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Have you been paying attention to the dross, misery and disappointment the last 6 years?

How could his appointment be any worse than now. Let yourself have some fun man, you've forgotten what it's like to be inspired. Come on, I've give ya a hand up onto the train.
 
winnie said:
It was definitely at Derby. I was in the front row, one of my fav players was Ross.
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Not if it was last minute it wasn’t mate. Wallace scored a last minute winner at Hull. Wallace did also score the winner v Derby but that was after about an hour.
 
Sweeper said:
Nah I think he means Hull. That was stoppage time I think. Was a class away day.
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Ahh …I remember Wallace scoring the winner away at Derby in Keane’s first game and getting booked for taking his shirt off. Thought that was the one Morse was referring to
 
I've seen fans on here tonight mentioning 'Man Management' and how it was a problem for Keane. Im guessing these fans haven't seen what past players, who played under Roy have said about him and his management techniques....its quite the opposite.

Keane got players playing to their peak levels and built a mentality in which the players bought into, he made them believe they could win by putting in the hard yards. Its no coincidence that when Roy came in, we scored many late goals and always played to the final whistle. He instilled that into a side that were rock bottom, yet if you listen to some on here, the man lacks 'Man management' skills.

Then there's "The modern game has past him by" comments. I (like most) have seen plenty (too much) League One football and I can tell anyone who wants to listen that there's no modern game at this level. In fact, I'd say that when some of our previous coaches down here have tried to bring about this modern style of play, its often left the team confused, along with the very head coach who's trying to implement it.
 
Mboma said:
I've seen fans on here tonight mentioning 'Man Management' and how it was a problem for Keane. Im guessing these fans haven't seen what past players, who played under Roy have said about him and his management techniques....its quite the opposite.

Keane got players playing to their peak levels and built a mentality in which the players bought into, he made them believe they could win by putting in the hard yards. Its no coincidence that when Roy came in, we scored many late goals and always played to the final whistle. He instilled that into a side that were rock bottom, yet if you listen to some on here, the man lacks 'Man management' skills.

Then there's "The modern game has past him by" comments. I (like most) have seen plenty (too much) League One football and I can tell anyone who wants to listen that there's no modern game at this level. In fact, I'd say that when some of our previous coaches down here have tried to bring about this modern style of play, its often left the team confused, along with the very head coach who's trying to implement it.
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Look what he got out of Nyron.
 
Mboma said:
I've seen fans on here tonight mentioning 'Man Management' and how it was a problem for Keane. Im guessing these fans haven't seen what past players, who played under Roy have said about him and his management techniques....its quite the opposite.

Keane got players playing to their peak levels and built a mentality in which the players bought into, he made them believe they could win by putting in the hard yards. Its no coincidence that when Roy came in, we scored many late goals and always played to the final whistle. He instilled that into a side that were rock bottom, yet if you listen to some on here, the man lacks 'Man management' skills.

Then there's "The modern game has past him by" comments. I (like most) have seen plenty (too much) League One football and I can tell anyone who wants to listen that there's no modern game at this level. In fact, I'd say that when some of our previous coaches down here have tried to bring about this modern style of play, its often left the team confused, along with the very head coach who's trying to implement it.
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I love Keane, but there might be with some players, and not with others

I dont think we should get too in depth about long term issues

its an appointment for 17 games then see where we are at

I really think thoseconcerns should be addressed in summer
 
Arcas Left Peg said:
I was sat in a pub in Oxford with the TV on silent in the background showing the game when that went in. Think the whole place thought I'd just had a breakdown when I stood up and started yelling
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:lol:
I still don’t know how he did it, I’m sure he managed to shoot through the defender’s legs! From our own corner flag to that strike, it was just mind blowing.
 
VoxPop said:
Ahh …I remember Wallace scoring the winner away at Derby in Keane’s first game and getting booked for taking his shirt off. Thought that was the one Morse was referring to
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if he’s genuinely thinking about a last minute Ross Wallace winner/jump in to the crowd - it was at Hull. Almost the last kick of the game, and he got sent off for a second yellow when he took his top off and jumped in the away end.

He did also score the winner v Derby, but it wasn’t last minute. It was after about an hour.
 
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Mboma said:
I've seen fans on here tonight mentioning 'Man Management' and how it was a problem for Keane. Im guessing these fans haven't seen what past players, who played under Roy have said about him and his management techniques....its quite the opposite.

Keane got players playing to their peak levels and built a mentality in which the players bought into, he made them believe they could win by putting in the hard yards. Its no coincidence that when Roy came in, we scored many late goals and always played to the final whistle. He instilled that into a side that were rock bottom, yet if you listen to some on here, the man lacks 'Man management' skills.

Then there's "The modern game has past him by" comments. I (like most) have seen plenty (too much) League One football and I can tell anyone who wants to listen that there's no modern game at this level. In fact, I'd say that when some of our previous coaches down here have tried to bring about this modern style of play, its often left the team confused, along with the very head coach who's trying to implement it.
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I'd add to that, simplicity. Doing the basic things correctly which we haven't consistently at all since being in this division.

Keane on Clough when he signed him for Forest:

"He gave me a bit of advice before the game which I've basically made a career out of. He said: 'I've seen your pre-season, you can control the ball, you can pass it and you can move'.

"I said I can do those three things and he just told me to do that tonight. And that was my career in a nutshell: control, pass it and move.

"And people always nod their head when I say that, because as a professional footballer you should be able to do those three things. But believe it or not, a lot of players can't."



No doubt many would laugh at that, but we've been shocking at basic football too often in recent years.
 
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Mboma said:
I've seen fans on here tonight mentioning 'Man Management' and how it was a problem for Keane. Im guessing these fans haven't seen what past players, who played under Roy have said about him and his management techniques....its quite the opposite.

Keane got players playing to their peak levels and built a mentality in which the players bought into, he made them believe they could win by putting in the hard yards. Its no coincidence that when Roy came in, we scored many late goals and always played to the final whistle. He instilled that into a side that were rock bottom, yet if you listen to some on here, the man lacks 'Man management' skills.

Then there's "The modern game has past him by" comments. I (like most) have seen plenty (too much) League One football and I can tell anyone who wants to listen that there's no modern game at this level. In fact, I'd say that when some of our previous coaches down here have tried to bring about this modern style of play, its often left the team confused, along with the very head coach who's trying to implement it.
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Anybody who was there and watching the first two seasons under Keane should know man management wasn't an issue (bar one or two incidents). The spirit and never say die of those teams could not possibly be driven by 'fear' or by someone they did not absolutely respect (imo).
 
Pete the Pirate said:
Good point.

At its height the Roy Keane team snatched loads of iconic last minute wins and comebacks in an almost fairytale way.

The current team we have, and it's been a problem since Jack Ross, keep conceeding last minute equalisers in contrast.
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It would have been a problem going back to moyes, just we rarely had a lead to throw away.

Bar a few runs, the only side that had any mental strength was under big Sam. And that didn't last long.
 
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