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Roy Keane

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Comeback_Kenwyne said:
Very nervous about this.

It's a bit different to the Defoe move, which made total sense and was a high reward, low risk kind of play anyway. And I'm a bit concerned by the combination of them both - this is the kind of crowd-pleasing populism that typically blew up in our face under the previous shitbag owners.

But these owners have to this point run us much more professionally. I would hope that this means Keane is buying into the model. I would hope it shows that despite his worryingly basic pundity on ITV, he has convinced them that he has sharp ideas about the game. I actually there is a marriage here where a DoF model can protect him from the boardroom bullshit that drove him insane last time here and let him focus on being Keane. I would think he has had to convince Speakman and KLD he is buying in to this and I think he is so desperate to get back into the game - and harbours genuinely deep affection towards us - that he may just even believe it himself.

But idk. He was not a training ground coach when he was here before, he was a manager. That's fine, but it's not our model. And whilst he is absolutely the best manager we've had since Reidy in my eyes, I'm more sold on the Speakman/KLD model than I am that Roy is right for us now.

Maybe as some OPs point out - this is all just neurosis at this level, maybe all we need from him is the lift, the charisma, the belief to get us out of this shithole. If it blows up in the Championship, frankly who gives a fuck. But really wouldn't want it to blow up this year and tarnish the amazing memories of what it was like when he was last here. So I'm pretty nervous, tbh.
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Give over man. We’ve suffered the boring shite of Grayson, Coleman, Ross, Parkinson and Johnson for years.
Roy Keane is exactly what we need, he is an absolute legend of the game and finally will bring back the feel good factor. I can’t f***ing wait!!
 
Realist said:
We already have the players in though and if he did do well for us again doesn't he deserve the chance in the championship if things went well? Or if he did badly for us then of course I would agree. He might get us up you say, isn't that what you want? What we all want. Just give him some time to at least manage and see how it goes. He won't take any nonsense from the players that's for sure.
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Modern day players can't handle his style , wish we had a crystal ball
 
can't see money being an issue as we won't be offering him anything substantial by his standards. it's literally does he want to give up his extremely well paid one day a week punditry job for the day to day club one

if he really wants to get back into management/coaching he's not going to get a better opportunity
 
Keyser Soze said:
It’s a lot like the ‘emperor’s new clothes’ all this adulation of Keane?

People have very short and selective memories - I suppose that’s what being so shite for so long does as we all crave the slightest success?

I really hope it works out, but it’s a massive risk imo
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If it’s until the end of the season how is it a massive risk? Who else is likely to come in and give an immediate boost?
 
Pacific said:
can't see money being an issue as we won't be offering him anything substantial by his standards. it's literally does he want to give up his extremely well paid one day a week punditry job for the day to day club one

if he really wants to get back into management/coaching he's not going to get a better opportunity
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He has previously stated he wants a L1/champ job

He’ll not be expecting a pay packet like last time
 
KEV_SAFC_FTM said:
How will he cope with managing poorer players? His standards were huge as a player and as a manager. He was used to managing Premier League players. No disrespect to the players here now, but our team is made up of championship/league one players who aren’t as skilful.
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Huge standards will only rub off (hehe) on the players. Sign him up
KEV_SAFC_FTM said:
He’s been out of a job for a decade and his last managerial roles have hardly been a success. Will he be out of touch? Will his non-nonsense approach with players be accepted in the dressing room nowadays?
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Everything he says on a Sunday makes sense. Sign him up
KEV_SAFC_FTM said:
Will he commit and put everything into the job? Rumours of him being away from the training ground during the week in the latter stages of his reign and his reluctance to move here permanently did not help him at boardroom level or with the players (disclaimer. Not sure if this was true, but there was definitely rumours at the time).
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The current Covid situation has proved anyone can work from home. Sign him up
KEV_SAFC_FTM said:
Does he know the league? He’s a premier league panellist but I doubt that he knows much about league one, if at all. Will he have the feintest idea about teams like Wimbledon and Cheltenham?
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He'll karate chop them in half. Sign him up
KEV_SAFC_FTM said:
How will he work with the off field hierarchy? His relationship with Short was rumoured to be strained. What will it be like with Kyril? How will he work with Speakman over transfers? Will he expect a war chest?
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He'll karate chop them in half. Sign him up

KEV_SAFC_FTM said:
Obviously a lot of these questions can’t be answered and time will tell but there’s a lot of doubt in his appointment and there’s no guarantees that he will be as successful this time. Then again, there’s no guarantee any manager will be.
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Sign him up
 
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