Put a flat earthier into space

[ned_werby]

That's one main nailed of fact.

Except it's not a fact, not without irrefutable, verifiable, testable evidence - which you you have failed to offer. There's only one liar on this thread and it's you.

 

[DaveH]

A spinning globe we supposedly walk upon, sail upon, fly over....yes. 100% sure.

Nope.
That's one main nailed of fact.

In your mind, yes. In reality, no.

Of course, otherwise you wouldn't be arguing from it.

But you believed it all at first until you found many questioned it and found that there were so many religious groups.
The unknown that logically you feel doesn't add up but cannot dismiss it out of hand, yet knowing there are billions out there that believe in their own god. Why?
Because they trust their religion from the teachings by those who offer them it and who are trusted to convey that as a truth but really, a faith to abide by.

Your spinning globe is just like that.

What you decide to do or not do, is down to you.
Stick wholeheartedly to your spinning globe and all that goes with it. It seriously has no effect on what I go with.


The proof is there for all of you. It's just a case of who has that mindset to go against the grain.
Most won't and I don't blame them.
Nobody wants to be ridiculed by the masses, regardless of whether the masses know why they do it.

Forget my claim to anything.
I merely believe the Earth is not a spinning globe and have given all kinds of reasons, none of which are bothered with by those who have no intention of questioning the global story line.
Those who do question it with a clear and unbiased mind will take a step outside of the box. Whether that's you or anyone.
However, it doesn't matter to me what you do. You do stuff for yourself, not for me.

If you believe water curves around a spinning ball in a space vacuum then you carry on.

You shouldn't need to be told. It's all there.

Lots of ways, some of which you've been shown how to do.

Where have you shown. That is a lot or deflection and drivel to say that you have no experiment that 100% proves the earth is not a globe.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

You have been unable to prove in any way that my understanding of the earth we walk on is wrong so you are welcome to your own belief while I'm confident that my mind holds to reality.

And you're obviously welcome to that thought.

I actually never believed everything I was told about religion and questioned some of it.

Same here but not at first.

My parents were decent enough to agree about elements of doubt and not everything was literal.

Good parents.

Except it's not a fact, not without irrefutable, verifiable, testable evidence - which you you have failed to offer. There's only one liar on this thread and it's you.

I disagree.

Where have you shown. That is a lot or deflection and drivel to say that you have no experiment that 100% proves the earth is not a globe.

You have absolutely none to show it is.

 

[fyl2u]

You've been given enough over the course of the thread that you could check out for yourself if you were actually searching for the truth rather than confirmation of your own daydream, but it's perfectly clear that you're not.

Spot on.

You're smart people I'm sure you can search your own minds to figure it all out.

We have. I explained in great detail this morning how a real scientist would approach the problem and you just said:

No, it's not.

No explanation of why I was wrong, what I'd missed, where my logic had failed, nothing. Just "No it's not."

Of course, everyone here knows the reason why you didn't offer an explanation and why you didn't acknowledge the method I used. It's because I used the water level experiment as an example of the thought process behind an honest unbiased science experiment and it proved for the thousandth time how wrong you are about everything.

Those who do question it with a clear and unbiased mind will take a step outside of the box.

And yet you never have used yours. You refuse to do any UNBIASED experiments. The only "experiments" you've ever done were deficient in logic and failed to prove anything other than your inability to perform honest unbiased scientific experiements.

 

[DaveH]

And you're obviously welcome to that thought.

Same here but not at first.

Good parents.

I disagree.

You have absolutely none to show it is.

Lets be fair. There is masses of stuff that you have chosen to reject vs no experiment or test offered.

Why not address the balance and tell us what experiment you did that we can repeat to say the world is not a globe and that water is perfectly level?

 

[payne]

Lets be fair. There is masses of stuff that you have chosen to reject vs no experiment or test offered.

Why not address the balance and tell us what experiment you did that we can repeat to say the world is not a globe and that water is perfectly level?

Its nuts that he thinks it perfectly reasonable to duck this question. His main piece of evidence which would shatter all the lies the rest of us believe he just won't tell us.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

It's easily proved. I'm sure you don't want me to repeat the proof...right?

You cant repeat what you've never shown to begin with. You have no proof.

It's your inability to prove a spinning globe which leads you to arguing that I supposedly can't prove it isn't, which you clearly know I can but choose to ignore the obvious due to absolute severe indoctrination.

If I am unable to prove a spinning globe to you that's because of your ridiculous definition of proof. Only you insist that received knowledge is inadmissible. Only you choose to discount and ignore things people in general have known for thousands of years to suit your fuckwitted agenda. It's nothing to do with a lack of proof, there's plenty. Your non-globe story on the other hand has none.

It's all about stepping outside of that box, even a little. Some do it better than others.

Some think they're doing it when they're just choosing to sit in another box.

It's all about how inquisitive a person is or how subservient a person is willing to become.

So it's no longer all about stepping out of the box?

I clearly have. I know what I know and you can only guess what I know...which is fine.

No you have not. If you "clearly had" done experiments then you'd have shown us by now instead of hiding behind "no need, I know what I know" or constantly relying on a totally flawed water level claim as your only proof.

I've been given more than enough over the years with an internet full of the very stuff you and others tell me.
It's all there is detail and yet I'm stronger than ever on my stance of Earth not being a spinning globe.

If you're that strong in your belief, why not show us your supposed experiments? Why not actually measure the curve instead of looking at it and calling that enough?
Why? Because you know it would destroy your claims.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Lets be fair. There is masses of stuff that you have chosen to reject vs no experiment or test offered.

Of course there is. Why? ....Because there is no proof.

Why not address the balance and tell us what experiment you did that we can repeat to say the world is not a globe and that water is perfectly level?

The experiments are simple and you basically know how to do them but refuse to acknowledge them because it goes against the grain. I know this and you know this.

 

[Nobby]

Of course there is. Why? ....Because there is no proof.


The experiments are simple and you basically know how to do them but refuse to acknowledge them because it goes against the grain. I know this and you know this.

How can people fail to acknowledge the experiments if you won't describe them

 

[fyl2u]

Of course there is. Why? ....Because there is no proof.

Liar.

The experiments are simple and you basically know how to do them but refuse to acknowledge them because it goes against the grain. I know this and you know this.

Liar.

 

[Kevj]

Of course there is. Why? ....Because there is no proof.


The experiments are simple and you basically know how to do them but refuse to acknowledge them because it goes against the grain. I know this and you know this.

Even post a link. Anything. Fart and give us a clue.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

You cant repeat what you've never shown to begin with. You have no proof.

No problem.

If I am unable to prove a spinning globe to you that's because of your ridiculous definition of proof.

Or you simply can't prove it.

Only you insist that received knowledge is inadmissible.

Nope. I say received stories are just that unless they can be backed up by those reading them.

Only you choose to discount and ignore things people in general have known for thousands of years to suit your fuckwitted agenda.

My agenda is simply finding the potential reality to the fictional storybook we were handed.

It's nothing to do with a lack of proof, there's plenty.

There's none.

Your non-globe story on the other hand has none.

My Earth thought process is neither here nor there, because I don't offer it as fact. It matters to me and me only.

Some think they're doing it when they're just choosing to sit in another box.

We are all doing that in certain stages.
If you question one thing you must understand that there could be many more things to question against what you're told to believe.

So it's no longer all about stepping out of the box?

Always. It just depends how far a person wishes to do so.

No you have not. If you "clearly had" done experiments then you'd have shown us by now instead of hiding behind "no need, I know what I know" or constantly relying on a totally flawed water level claim as your only proof.
If you're that strong in your belief, why not show us your supposed experiments?

The experiments are easy and you can easily put your mind to it if you really want to. I would hazard a guess you have no intention and I'm absolutely fine with that.

Why not actually measure the curve instead of looking at it and calling that enough?

What curve?

Why? Because you know it would destroy your claims.

The only way you can destroy my claims is to show me proof of a spinning globe or burning stars in the sky...etc....etc....etc.
Can you?

 

[fyl2u]

What curve?

If you're so sure there's no curve, why haven't you used the necessary equipment in an experiment to prove it isn't there?

 

[Kevj]

The only way you can destroy my claims is to show me proof of a spinning globe or burning stars in the sky...etc....etc....etc.
Can you?

I know this has been touched on previously in this thread: can you advise why we can’t see the top of Everest from Sunderland? It’s the highest point on both flat earth and globe theories, yet it can’t be seen unless you’re in a certain range. I’m happy with the globe reasoning. But I’d like to explore your understanding of why.

 

[ned_werby]

If you're so sure there's no curve, why haven't you used the necessary equipment in an experiment to prove it isn't there?

because he knows fine well his shit would blow up in his face and he'd be the flat earth emperor with no clothes

 

[Nobby]

He can't provide an accurate drawing if what thinks the world looks like.

He can't explain the experiments he has done to prove the world is not a globe.

But he knows the world is not a globe.

 

[DPTT]

Never known a supposedly grown adult go on like a complete petulant wanksplat.

It’s bad enough dismissing literally everything that has been put forward to him on here but also the fact he’s called every science experiment and scientists liars and stupid and come back with fuck all.
The bloke is a moron of the highest order

Water Flat blah blah f***ing blah

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

Or you simply can't prove it.

It is easily proved and you have been shown how to prove it to yourself. You don't want to.

Nope. I say received stories are just that unless they can be backed up by those reading them.

My agenda is simply finding the potential reality to the fictional storybook we were handed.

No it isn't or you'd be sucking up all the info laid out for you in this thread and checking it all out. You have your theory and you're defending it rather than looking for any true reality.

There's none.

There's the curvature of water, there's the seasons, day and night, the "apparent motion" of the stars (yes we're back there again and the motion is still only apparent), there's the observation of Polaris dipping lower in the sky as you move south in a manner only possible on a globe. All these before you start looking at the received knowledge of scientists and physicists, astronomers and astronauts over many years. There's none that you want to accept, but that's an entirely different matter, as you know.

My Earth thought process is neither here nor there, because I don't offer it as fact. It matters to me and me only.

I didn't say your Earth thought process, I said your non globe theory, which is central to the whole thread. It's a globe and you choose to deny this.

If you question one thing you must understand that there could be many more things to question against what you're told to believe.

I have no problem with questioning things. Questioning things should be the default position. You are not questioning, you're just refusing to look at or accept anything that contradicts the story you have already settled on.

The experiments are easy and you can easily put your mind to it if you really want to. I would hazard a guess you have no intention and I'm absolutely fine with that.

Utter bullshit. You know any real experiment will prove the globe and you know you have no real experiments of your own. That's why you keep saying stuff like "the experiments are easy" and "put your mind to it" instead of just explaining what these easy experiments are. The only one you've given so far is so ridiculous you've tried to distance yourself from the details ever since but still cling to it as your main proof.

What curve?

The curve you know you're going to find if you ever do the real experiments/measurements.

The only way you can destroy my claims is to show me proof of a spinning globe or burning stars in the sky...etc....etc....etc.
Can you?

I've told you where to look. I cant see it for you.

 

[fyl2u]

The only one you've given so far is so ridiculous you've tried to distance yourself from the details ever since but still cling to it as your main proof.

Oh, don't forget the spirit level on a raft on a lake experiment.

It always shows the bubble in the middle of the spirit level therefore the lake is flat.

 

[payne]

Never known a supposedly grown adult go on like a complete petulant wanksplat.

It’s bad enough dismissing literally everything that has been put forward to him on here but also the fact he’s called every science experiment and scientists liars and stupid and come back with fuck all.
The bloke is a moron of the highest order

Water Flat blah blah f***ing blah

He's so daft he thinks he's the smartest man who's ever lived. It's both pathetic and embarrassing.