Put a flat earthier into space

[BigPete]

You see the light in the dark sky you believe is a rock like moon. You see it lit up like a beacon.

And then you get treated to stuff like this.

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Many people believe in ghosts.
Many people believe in demons.

Many people won't watch ghost films. Why?

Probably religious nutters and think the world is flat like yourself.

 

[zwartekat]

I have myself. It doesn't mean it's a real solid object.

What's happened is, we were told the moon was a ball of rocky cement like substance and later when SFX/CGI/staging was in its infancy we were shown some men on it and then when SFX/CGI got better, so did the little set ups for filming and actors.

Yeah, sort of.

If we're heading off into Stephen King territory then anything could happen!. Under the Dome was fiction, you know?

 

[Nobby]

He's putting a lot of effort in this morning to try and move the questions away from how he has proved water is flat and why he won't share that proof.

It's almost as if he doesn't want to talk about for some reason

 

[Roman maroni]

It means they can create all kinds of scenarios, factual or fictional.

I actually find what you said above to be equally similar.

How do you know they're not real?

Tracked as in, how?

From how many miles away?
Do you know what they're launching or is the TV your source of info?

Aye, just like the moon landing crew.

Judging by the so called lunar lander I'd say it was a kids' school project. The only real craft was the lesson likely called arts and crafts.

It's never been proven by anyone, including you.
Debunking it is the easiest thing.
Guess why?

It's been proven, get over it, debunking the globe is impossible, you and your idiotic musings are laughable.

 

[What A Waster]

He's putting a lot of effort in this morning to try and move the questions away from how he has proved water is flat and why he won't share that proof.

It's almost as if he doesn't want to talk about for some reason

He's looked at it. What more proof is there?

 

[taipeisafc]

Nope.

Nope.

Nice try but it's a weak attempt.

Absiolutely.

Ahhhh, ok.
So in this space vacuum it shines like a big beacon with many dark patches within it because the cement like set up is so reflective apart from the bits that are not and show dark patches.
And yet when the so called moon men were stood on it in the same set up, it was dark with a simple spotlight over the area where they stood but pitch black elsewhere...and yet this dull spotlight supposedly gets seen by us on good old Earth as a big lit up beacon.

As for it hardly being seen in our daylight. It should be seen in our day light if it's supposedly 238,000 miles into a vacuum of space if our sky washes out that darkness.

It's all utter nonsense passed off as reality..

I saw the moon today a little after noon in a clear sunlit sky. So it can be seen in daylight.

 

[BigPete]

I saw the moon today a little after noon in a clear sunlit sky. So it can be seen in daylight.

Seen the moon through the day loads..

If he got his head out his arse and took a look he would have as well.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Do you know what a shadow is?

A blockage of light waves.

Probably religious nutters and think the world is flat like yourself.

So you think religious people are nutters?

If we're heading off into Stephen King territory then anything could happen!. Under the Dome was fiction, you know?

In the film, maybe. But what does it depict? Maybe it depicts more.
You see a spinning ball Earth on TV and think it's fact. But is it?

He's putting a lot of effort in this morning to try and move the questions away from how he has proved water is flat and why he won't share that proof.

It's almost as if he doesn't want to talk about for some reason

No need to further it, it's all there for all to observe and test.

It's been proven, get over it, debunking the globe is impossible, you and your idiotic musings are laughable.

Debunking the globe is so easy. Proving it from your side, is the tricky part.

I saw the moon today a little after noon in a clear sunlit sky. So it can be seen in daylight.

Of course, which should tell you it's inside Earth and not in any space vacuum.

 

[zwartekat]

In the film, maybe. But what does it depict? Maybe it depicts more.
You see a spinning ball Earth on TV and think it's fact. But is it?

In the book, too.

And yes, it is fact.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

In the book, too.

And yes, it is fact.

In your mind it's fact but you do not know it to be fact.
You were sold story lines like we all get sold story lines. You bought into many stories based on where you were told they fit.
The fiction and the fact and the faith.
The problem is in knowing which of the stories actually fit the right shelves.
On face value all the fact books are just that. And the fiction and the faith.

How do you find out the reality of what those books really represent?

Billions of people have faith in lots of religions.
How many did so by being schooled?
How much of that schooling is based on actual facts?
How do you prove one religion over another?
How do you prove any?

How do you prove your globe?
How do you prove your space?
How do you prove anything told as a story?

You're not in possession of the facts. You're in possession of the memories of stories told/sold as factual.

 

[DaveH]

Nope.

Nope.

Nice try but it's a weak attempt.

Absiolutely.

Ahhhh, ok.
So in this space vacuum it shines like a big beacon with many dark patches within it because the cement like set up is so reflective apart from the bits that are not and show dark patches.
And yet when the so called moon men were stood on it in the same set up, it was dark with a simple spotlight over the area where they stood but pitch black elsewhere...and yet this dull spotlight supposedly gets seen by us on good old Earth as a big lit up beacon.

As for it hardly being seen in our daylight. It should be seen in our day light if it's supposedly 238,000 miles into a vacuum of space if our sky washes out that darkness.

It's all utter nonsense passed off as reality..

So then, if looking out a window and saying "aye flat" is not what you have done, what is your absolute proof conclusive experiment that anyone can do to prove that water is flat?

Why are you so reluctant to tell us?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So then, if looking out a window and saying "aye flat" is not what you have done, what is your absolute proof conclusive experiment that anyone can do to prove that water is flat?

Why are you so reluctant to tell us?

You're smart people I'm sure you can search your own minds to figure it all out.

 

[payne]

In your mind it's fact but you do not know it to be fact.
You were sold story lines like we all get sold story lines. You bought into many stories based on where you were told they fit.
The fiction and the fact and the faith.
The problem is in knowing which of the stories actually fit the right shelves.
On face value all the fact books are just that. And the fiction and the faith.

How do you find out the reality of what those books really represent?

Billions of people have faith in lots of religions.
How many did so by being schooled?
How much of that schooling is based on actual facts?
How do you prove one religion over another?
How do you prove any?

How do you prove your globe?
How do you prove your space?
How do you prove anything told as a story?

You're not in possession of the facts. You're in possession of the memories of stories told/sold as factual.

please seek medical help

 

[What A Waster]

In your mind it's fact but you do not know it to be fact.
You were sold story lines like we all get sold story lines. You bought into many stories based on where you were told they fit.
The fiction and the fact and the faith.
The problem is in knowing which of the stories actually fit the right shelves.
On face value all the fact books are just that. And the fiction and the faith.

How do you find out the reality of what those books really represent?

Billions of people have faith in lots of religions.
How many did so by being schooled?
How much of that schooling is based on actual facts?
How do you prove one religion over another?
How do you prove any?

How do you prove your globe?
How do you prove your space?
How do you prove anything told as a story?

You're not in possession of the facts. You're in possession of the memories of stories told/sold as factual.

Yet you know 100% it's not a globe.
Because you looked at some water.

 

[ned_werby]

It's tragic that he's so afraid of his own pointlessness that he has to come up with these lies to justify his existence. IMO, that's what it is - he's so terrified of his own meaninglessness (as we all are, ultimately) that he has to deny the fact that we're here, we do what we do (some better than others), and then we're gone.

 

[zwartekat]

In your mind it's fact but you do not know it to be fact.
You were sold story lines like we all get sold story lines. You bought into many stories based on where you were told they fit.
The fiction and the fact and the faith.
The problem is in knowing which of the stories actually fit the right shelves.
On face value all the fact books are just that. And the fiction and the faith.

How do you find out the reality of what those books really represent?

Billions of people have faith in lots of religions.
How many did so by being schooled?
How much of that schooling is based on actual facts?
How do you prove one religion over another?
How do you prove any?

How do you prove your globe?
How do you prove your space?
How do you prove anything told as a story?

You're not in possession of the facts. You're in possession of the memories of stories told/sold as factual.

No, I'm in possession of many facts that lead me to believe that the spinning globe is a fact. I generally trust the sources of those facts.

I was taught religion at school and when I got older I questioned the things I'd been taught and their sources and decided that I couldn't readily believe in a religion but it's essentially an unknown.

 

[DaveH]

You're smart people I'm sure you can search your own minds to figure it all out.

That old chestnut: I make a claim and it is up to you to figure it out.

It is your proof, why can't you explain what you have done to give your absolute 100% proof it is not a globe? You are making the claim, we have put so much forward as to experiments people can do to prove it is a spinning globe. All you need to do is put your 100% absolute proof forward and tell us how to do it.

How can a layman measure the lack of curve of the earth and more importantly how did you do it yourself?

 

[nahwee]

Are you getting paid for each post? Because you appear to be posting drivel just to keep the thread running.

You must need the money as you’re sounding more and more desperate.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Yet you know 100% it's not a globe.

A spinning globe we supposedly walk upon, sail upon, fly over....yes. 100% sure.

Because you looked at some water.

Nope.
That's one main nailed of fact.

No, I'm in possession of many facts that lead me to believe that the spinning globe is a fact.

In your mind, yes. In reality, no.

I generally trust the sources of those facts.

Of course, otherwise you wouldn't be arguing from it.

I was taught religion at school and when I got older I questioned the things I'd been taught and their sources and decided that I couldn't readily believe in a religion but it's essentially an unknown.

But you believed it all at first until you found many questioned it and found that there were so many religious groups.
The unknown that logically you feel doesn't add up but cannot dismiss it out of hand, yet knowing there are billions out there that believe in their own god. Why?
Because they trust their religion from the teachings by those who offer them it and who are trusted to convey that as a truth but really, a faith to abide by.

Your spinning globe is just like that.

That old chestnut: I make a claim and it is up to you to figure it out.

What you decide to do or not do, is down to you.
Stick wholeheartedly to your spinning globe and all that goes with it. It seriously has no effect on what I go with.

It is your proof, why can't you explain what you have done to give your absolute 100% proof it is not a globe?

The proof is there for all of you. It's just a case of who has that mindset to go against the grain.
Most won't and I don't blame them.
Nobody wants to be ridiculed by the masses, regardless of whether the masses know why they do it.

You are making the claim, we have put so much forward as to experiments people can do to prove it is a spinning globe.

Forget my claim to anything.
I merely believe the Earth is not a spinning globe and have given all kinds of reasons, none of which are bothered with by those who have no intention of questioning the global story line.
Those who do question it with a clear and unbiased mind will take a step outside of the box. Whether that's you or anyone.
However, it doesn't matter to me what you do. You do stuff for yourself, not for me.

If you believe water curves around a spinning ball in a space vacuum then you carry on.

All you need to do is put your 100% absolute proof forward and tell us how to do it.

You shouldn't need to be told. It's all there.

How can a layman measure the lack of curve of the earth and more importantly how did you do it yourself?

Lots of ways, some of which you've been shown how to do.

 

[zwartekat]

In your mind, yes. In reality, no.

Of course, otherwise you wouldn't be arguing from it.

But you believed it all at first until you found many questioned it and found that there were so many religious groups.
The unknown that logically you feel doesn't add up but cannot dismiss it out of hand, yet knowing there are billions out there that believe in their own god. Why?
Because they trust their religion from the teachings by those who offer them it and who are trusted to convey that as a truth but really, a faith to abide by.

Your spinning globe is just like that.

You have been unable to prove in any way that my understanding of the earth we walk on is wrong so you are welcome to your own belief while I'm confident that my mind holds to reality.

I actually never believed everything I was told about religion and questioned some of it. My parents were decent enough to agree about elements of doubt and not everything was literal.