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Put a flat earthier into space


DaveH said:
I was looking at this image of the moon this morning:
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and I started asking myself these questions

Do I believe this image is real? Yes
Does this section of it actually look like a big rock ball? Yes, though that is just my perception
If you shine a light on a ball from the side while in darkness, would one side be really light gradually fading into darkness like in this picture? Yes (bottom left to top right)
If you put 3d features on that ball would you see shadows of mountains going from left to right and can we see that here? Yes
If you had craters on that ball, would the left side be dark and in shadow while the right side would be brighter catching the light? Yes
Is that the same effect as we see here? Yes
If you drew circles all over that ball, would those close to what we see as the edge from our viewing angle look elliptical while those more towards the middle appear circular? Yes
Do the craters in this image show the same behavior? Yes
If you slam a heavy object into something solid but loose to some degree like sand, soil, flour etc, does it give circular crater patters that match these? Yes

Does this look anything like the sun? No, but the sun is really bright, perhaps too bright to see the features we can see here
Ok how can we see activity on the sun? We could look at 'The Sun Now' and 'Sunspots' at
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Is this real of faked data, how can we tell? Real, the sunspots image is a 99.x% white light filter image and you can buy special filtering foil for about £25 to make filters for telescopes, binoculars or just the naked eye, I have done this and the sunspots NASA claim always match 100% (though today is a particularly bland day sunspot wise and it is cloudy here today, but other days have matched)
What about 'The Sun Now', is this real? These use various filters like hydrogen-alpha to really peer into the surface of the sun showing only certain wavelengths. Large storms on this image match sunspots, but HA solar telescopes are really expensive, about (£4k) and beyond my spending. However many people have them and taken similar images from home, this 'crowd sourcing' from the general public has never spotted any issues.
So we can trust the data, do features on the sun with most of the blinding glare filtered out ever match features such as these on the moon? No

Does light hitting a parabolic curve/dome split into two, giving a primary and secondary reflection? No
Does a circle of light hitting a parabolic dome ever present a reflection elsewhere on the dome that is a different shape, e.g. a circle to a crescent? No
Does a circle of light hitting a parabolic dome ever present a reflection elsewhere where the other reflection shows completely different features? No
Does a circle reflecting off anything ever give two reflections where one is a completely different image? No, though this could be achieved with white light hitting a prism in such a way to split the light and the second is passed through a translucent image e.g. a projector slide and produce a different image elsewhere.
Is it likely that a floating prism and projector slide is up there somewhere doing this? No

Is it then likely that the moon is a secondary reflection of the sun or some sort of hologram projected into space from earth? No, what a mental question
Does the moon behave exactly like a solid cratered object would in space? Yes, and we can simulate this on earth to check, see above
So if the moon was a fake projection/hologram has it been faked in the exact way to behave like a ball of rock? Yes
Could the only reason for this be that it was designed to fool us if faked? Probably, but could be a coincidence

Is the most likely explanation that the moon is real and it is crazy to even ask this question? Yes
If it were otherwise and was a fake, would this fact need a coverup involving millions of people spread over a long long time? Yes
Is believing so many are out to get you a sure sign of paranoia? Yes
Do those who believe otherwise really need some help? Absolutely yes



My exercise in critical thinking this morning after looking at a single lunar image. Feel free to poke holes in my thought process.

Are you confirming that you have not done an experiment and you have just looked into the distance, rubbed your chin and said flat?

You answered my question with a question of your own and I think given the great details myself and many others have gone through to explain experiments, maths and physics, you should really answer this one with a yes or no. And if no, expand on how you really measured the lack of curve. If you whole argument lies on 'water level', I think after 321 pages, how we measure water level really is key to this who many months long thread.
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Any idea how your big ball of grey cement lights up like a beacon in the sky?
Roman maroni said:
You're a complete and utter moron.
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Aye, so I've been told on more than one occasion. ;)
Roman maroni said:
So that's your answer CGI and SFX,
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Yep. There's plenty of evidence out there that pushes towards this.
Roman maroni said:
no explanation why it can't happen, just nu uh can't happen, you're a buffoon.
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Why it can't happen?
It can happen for a short while on a vomit comet but I don't think this has anything to do with that. This stuff is CGI and SFX. Green screen, blue screen stuff, coupled with underwater stuff...etc.

It's amazing what those special effects people can come up with with this so called space stuff and even the superhero movies....etc....etc....etc.
 
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Kevj said:
The same as we all await yours for every theory you have put forward with no justification or back up. You go first…
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No problem. If you can;t explain it I'm ok with that.
Roman maroni said:
For someone that hasn't got a clue what they're talking about your a condescending prick.
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You feel free to get all wound up and frustrated when you can't ridicule and have to resort to using this stuff.
I'd suggest you ignore me.
I'm just trying to help.
Roman maroni said:
Have a look in the mirror, I think you'll find the answer.
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Ditto.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
Any idea how your big ball of grey cement lights up like a beacon in the sky?

Aye, so I've been told on more than one occasion. ;)

Yep. There's plenty of evidence out there that pushes towards this.

Why it can't happen?
It can happen for a short while on a vomit comet but I don't think this has anything to do with that. This stuff is CGI and SFX. Green screen, blue screen stuff, coupled with underwater stuff...etc.

It's amazing what those special effects people can come up with with this so called space stuff and even the superhero movies....etc....etc....etc.
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Nukehasslefan said:
Any idea how your big ball of grey cement lights up like a beacon in the sky?

Aye, so I've been told on more than one occasion. ;)

Yep. There's plenty of evidence out there that pushes towards this.

Why it can't happen?
It can happen for a short while on a vomit comet but I don't think this has anything to do with that. This stuff is CGI and SFX. Green screen, blue screen stuff, coupled with underwater stuff...etc.

It's amazing what those special effects people can come up with with this so called space stuff and even the superhero movies....etc....etc....etc.
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And there you have it, absolute grade A weapon.
 
The Snockerty Friddle said:
and still not an explanation as to why it cant happen.
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He's always the same,it's the standard flerf response, they never debunk the globe, but the flat earth is easily debunked time and time again. They just parrot the same responses all the time, if he was as clever as he likes to think he is you'd think he would have realised what a pile of steaming excrement he is trying to peddle.
 
DaveH said:
The sun shines on it. The sun is really bright.

You missed the question asking you to confirm you have done no water level experiement just looked at a body of water and said 'hmm flatness'. Is this correct?
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You're just parroting stuff you've learned in school. You don't actually know anything real. All the stuff you learned in school so you could get a job is just pointless information, meaningless even. Your employer must be thick to as they should have just not employed someone who had been schooled and could have saved on the wage. They have probably been schooled to think they need to employ schooled people for the pointless job they require done. The whole organisation must be just a scam to rake in tax payer money for doing nothing than pretend work that in reality isn't required at all.

This certainly points me to believe it is not a spinning globe we walk upon in a space vacuum with a fireball 93 million miles away.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Any idea how your big ball of grey cement lights up like a beacon in the sky?

Aye, so I've been told on more than one occasion. ;)

Yep. There's plenty of evidence out there that pushes towards this.

Why it can't happen?
It can happen for a short while on a vomit comet but I don't think this has anything to do with that. This stuff is CGI and SFX. Green screen, blue screen stuff, coupled with underwater stuff...etc.

It's amazing what those special effects people can come up with with this so called space stuff and even the superhero movies....etc....etc....etc.
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People have been observing the moon, etc. for 100s, if not 1000s, of years. Way before we had CGI and SFX, so how has that happened? It seems to be really veering off into some bizarre science-fiction where there have been controlling 'masters' since the dawn of time (with no known purpose).
 
zwartekat said:
People have been observing the moon, etc. for 100s, if not 1000s, of years. Way before we had CGI and SFX, so how has that happened? It seems to be really veering off into some bizarre science-fiction where there have been controlling 'masters' since the dawn of time (with no known purpose).
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Lying exists, people lie, people like control, it's about control, what control, fuck nars.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
I'd hazard a guess you did some.

Nope. I'm saying your education is based on indoctrination. You are examined solely on what was place into your head and the better you regurgitate it the better your marks and the better looking CV you can add to to gain a place of work.
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Like I said, you don't seem to understand how the education system works beyond primary school. I suspect you left school before you reached your teenage years.

Nukehasslefan said:
I absolutely do.
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Your previous comment would indicate otherwise.

Nukehasslefan said:
We're all parrots. Mimics. You don't understand maths or physics so you just dent everything rather than admit you're too thick to understand it all.
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Drivel. You're a parrot, the rest of us are actually capable of thinking for ourselves. You're just repeating the lies that the flat earth society have brainwashed you with.

Nukehasslefan said:
Then you parrot the flat earth society's lies because it makes more sense to your feeble brain.
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Now you're parroting me.

Nukehasslefan said:
I'd say that about you.
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Of course you would, because you refuse to acknowledge your shortcomings, and whenever someone hits too close to the mark you just deflect with some feeble response like that one.


Nukehasslefan said:
I formed my opinion after realising the stories told were absolute utter bull.
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After being brainwashed into thinking the so-called "stories told" were utter bull. Unfortunately for you, the stories you were told about those original stories being utter bull were utter bull and the original stories were right all along but you've dug your heels in way too deep to admit it now.

Nukehasslefan said:
You seem to have plenty to say.
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About a subject that I do have some knowledge about when I can see someone whose knowledge is far inferior to my own trying to pretend that he knows it all and getting it all wrong? Yes. Yes I do.

Nukehasslefan said:
Have a real good think about that.
Nukehasslefan said I'm sure you can explain then.
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I've had a real good think about it. I've also done experiments that prove it. Curved water level kills your cell world dead.

8"/m^2
Nukehasslefan said:
Nothing's been proven from your side and nothing has been debunked.
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Lies.

Nukehasslefan said:
The Dunning Kruger effect gets used a lot.
I wonder who it applies to.
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I wonder.
Nukehasslefan said:
Water level as one instance.
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Who's on first?
nahwee said:
Did you really just post this!
This! from you!
You out on the sauce last night?
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He was trying to quote my post but fucked it up. Those are my words from the post he was trying to quote.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
Your exams don't back this up.

Yep, we are.

Water level.

It all depends on who has invented the fantasy world. I offer you mine as nothing more than a thought exercise for yourselves and to offer you a thought process. I do not offer it as factual, unlike what you are offered with your spinning globe which you have absolutely no clue about in terms of physical facts but plenty of stories to make you believe they are facts..

Not once.

My ego is simply a steadfast stance. What is your ego?

I can if I know I have... and do not accept the words of someone on the internet who says I haven't.

Absolutely not interested in who calls me a liar of whatever else. It's all been done and will likely be regurgitated. I say, carry on if it suits.

The Earth is absolutely not a spinning globe we supposedly walk upon no matter what people say. In my honest opinion.
What you put up as people seemingly going from one side to another is of no concern to me.

I have no clue and I'm actually not interested.

Have a think about what you're saying.

No I didn't. I said the centre had crystal in it which reflected the energy from the super carbon arcing.

Put your mind to work.
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So what experiments made you realise it had crystal in the centre? I'm really intrigued
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Any idea how your big ball of grey cement lights up like a beacon in the sky?
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Do you mean "why do dark things get light when you shine light on them?"
Nukehasslefan said:
Yep. There's plenty of evidence out there that pushes towards this.
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Don't talk wet, you daft tinifoil-hat-wearing plank.
Nukehasslefan said:
No problem. If you can;t explain it I'm ok with that.
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Aww bless, he's stuck in this loop again.

Nukehasslefan said:
You feel free to get all wound up and frustrated when you can't ridicule and have to resort to using this stuff.
I'd suggest you ignore me.
I'm just trying to help.
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Trying to help us all be as demented, closed-minded and brainwashed as yourself? No thanks, I prefer to be a free-thinking scientist whose opinions are driven by the evidence I've seen with my own eyes, whose mind can change if new evidence emerges that suggests one of my opinions might be wrong, and who isn't just unafraid to admit when I'm wrong but in fact actually sees it as being virtuous to do so.

Nukehasslefan said:
Ditto.
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Pieces of eight inches per mile squared, pieces of eight inches per mile squared, water level, water level, Polly wants a cracker.
 
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fyl2u said:
Do you mean "why do dark things get light when you shine light on them?"
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I recently thought about this problem and balanced a chicken kiev onto a half used roll of roofing felt, after walking around it 3 times I could confidently say that the so called sun could not illuminate the so called moon.
 
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