Put a flat earthier into space

[What A Waster]

How do you know I wasn't there? Time is a man made concept after all, and it's only because we've all been schooled into thinking it was too long ago for any of us to have been alive at the time that we have to appeal to the authority of historians.

You're welcome to think that. It makes no difference to me.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Water level is not proof.

Of course it's not, to you. You believe oceans curve around a big sphere so water level is not going to appease you when you've been told to ignore what you blatantly observe.

You could put a thimble full of water on top of a basket ball and the water would still go level as its the container its in..

Now rotate it.

You still can't prove that water is flat. You make an assertion and repeat it.

I can't prove it to you because your oceans curve around a big spinning sphere. How can I offer anything more to show it's level if that's your mindset?
I say carry on with your globe and water staying on it. Same as anyone else. It's what we were just about all brought up with, like Santa, the tooth fairy and all the rest of the magical stuff.

No you don't, you have badly-conceived failures of "experiments" that you've never even performed, a refusal by you to test your own theories with actual scientific unbiased experiments, a metric shitload of your own speculations based on psuedoscientific lies fed to you by the flat earth community, a massive deficiency in your knowledge and an utter inability to think for yourself.

Stick with that.

Compound all that with your inability to ever admit when you're wrong and what you actually have isn't "proof" of anything other than your utter car crash of a belief system.

I'll admit I'm wrong when I'm proved wrong. None of it is coming from yourself.

Dementia will do that to a person.

Do what?

Except it doesn't, because you've never measured it with equipment capable of detecting an 8 inches per mile squared curve in your bath.

No need.

"No true globe denier would ever admit the earth is a spinning globe".

Why would anyone admit Earth is a spinning globe if they don't believe it is, other than fear of ridicule and ease of simply following the narrative?

Your cellworld is straight out of the book of Zetetic Astronomy by Samuel Rowbotham, the gobshite who founded the original flat earth society 150 years ago, i.e. a massive appeal to authority at best, utter plagiarism and lies about the true author at worst.

Feel free to believe what you want.

We all have. Real experiments. Unbiased experiments. Scientific experiments.

Real experiments that offer no proof of a spinning globe and absolutely no idea of space, except to follow the narrative set and view from that position.

They all showed beyond a shadow of a doubt that the world is a spinning globe.

Absolutely 100%, not.

How does the ‘sun’ appear to breach the horizon (at sunrise) and arc up and across the ‘sky’ using a radar similar to that if there is a central projector and also achieve this (sunrise) consistently for differing countries? It’s either low in the ‘sky’ or it’s higher and there’s either only one projection or there’s many. But none of these concepts all work in unison.

It's reflected back to you not hitting you directly from the centre.

 

[Nobby]

I can't prove it to you because your oceans curve around a big spinning sphere. How can I offer anything more to show it's level if that's your mindset?

Very easily, tell us how you measured a body of water to show it is flat. If that is repeatable, you will have done enough to cause very serious questions to be asked

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Very easily, tell us how you measured a body of water to show it is flat. If that is repeatable, you will have done enough to cause very serious questions to be asked

There's many ways water can be measured to show level. You can even build by using the very same thing.
However, it's not for me to prove it to you, it's down to you to bother to prove it to yourself and if you don't want to then water curves around a big sphere to you and simply go with it like you do.

I'm not here to change your mind.

 

[BigPete]

Now rotate it.

My maths isn't that good but the bigger the mass the more the gravitational pull there is.

If you were to work that out then rotate it at the equivalent speed I bet you wouldn't see it flying away.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

My maths isn't that good but the bigger the mass the more the gravitational pull there is.

What is gravitational pull and how does it work?

If you were to work that out then rotate it at the equivalent speed I bet you wouldn't see it flying away.

We all know what really happens when you rotate something on a ball or a roundabout or similar if you don't have an outer barrier.
You get forced towards that outer or basically flung off.
We are and have being coaxed nearly all of our lives to believe the opposite of what our senses know, really happens.

Gravity is the magical word that requires no explanation in reality, just that it does what it's said to do in order for this Earth to be force fed as a spinning globe and for so called space vacuum to become a person's schooled reality.

 

[BigPete]

What is gravitational pull and how does it work?

Why don't you tell me?

You are obviously the Einstein of the forum and we are lemmings.

Gravity is the magical word that requires no explanation in reality

 

[ned_werby]

Water level.
Now show me your proof.

Not level.

 

[Kevj]

We all know what really happens when you rotate something on a ball or a roundabout or similar if you don't have an outer barrier.
You get forced towards that outer or basically flung off.

You obviously don’t know the difference between centrifugal and centripetal force.

Basic. Physics.

 

[ned_werby]

You obviously don’t know the difference between centrifugal and centripetal force.

Basic. Physics.

Centripetal force has 100 legs?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Why don't you tell me?
You are obviously the Einstein of the forum and we are lemmings.

I can't tell you. It doesn't exist to me. This is why I'm asking you.
You go with it so I just assumed you knew what it was you are going with.
I'm just trying to figure out what it's supposed to be in your mindset.

 

[BigPete]

I can't tell you. It doesn't exist to me. This is why I'm asking you.
You go with it so I just assumed you knew what it was you are going with.
I'm just trying to figure out what it's supposed to be in your mindset.

You wouldn't understand

 

[payne]

I can't tell you. It doesn't exist to me. This is why I'm asking you.
You go with it so I just assumed you knew what it was you are going with.
I'm just trying to figure out what it's supposed to be in your mindset.

he still thinks the physical world is just the opinion of each individual. what a moron.

 

[DaveH]

Of course it's not, to you. You believe oceans curve around a big sphere so water level is not going to appease you when you've been told to ignore what you blatantly observe.

Now rotate it.

I can't prove it to you because your oceans curve around a big spinning sphere. How can I offer anything more to show it's level if that's your mindset?
I say carry on with your globe and water staying on it. Same as anyone else. It's what we were just about all brought up with, like Santa, the tooth fairy and all the rest of the magical stuff.

Stick with that.

I'll admit I'm wrong when I'm proved wrong. None of it is coming from yourself.

Do what?

No need.

Why would anyone admit Earth is a spinning globe if they don't believe it is, other than fear of ridicule and ease of simply following the narrative?

Feel free to believe what you want.

Real experiments that offer no proof of a spinning globe and absolutely no idea of space, except to follow the narrative set and view from that position.

Absolutely 100%, not.

It's reflected back to you not hitting you directly from the centre.

Nowt to do with mindset, it is all about being able to measure a reasonable amount over distance and you don’t have a way to do that.

A spirit level is not accurate enough over it’s distance. You have never tried explaining an experiment other than that and your own formula proves the futility of it.

Got anything better or do you remain having zero proof that water is flat?

 

[Nobby]

There's many ways water can be measured to show level.

But you still refuse to say how you have done it yourself. I can't see an easy way to do it without specialist equipment that's why I am asking for your help

 

[payne]

But you still refuse to say how you have done it yourself. I can't see an easy way to do it without specialist equipment that's why I am asking for your help

all he's done is pour water over a mitre delta footy then fill up a tupperware container whilst in the bath. bobs ya uncle flat earth cos ne gravity exists but dense mass chooses to stack towards the earth because of reasons. Eyes tell all! Measuring equipment tells ya fuck all. Tape measures are for chumps.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

You obviously don’t know the difference between centrifugal and centripetal force.

Basic. Physics.

I'm sure you can explain....right?

You wouldn't understand

Ok.

Nowt to do with mindset, it is all about being able to measure a reasonable amount over distance and you don’t have a way to do that.

Just observation will do over distance.

A spirit level is not accurate enough over it’s distance.

It seems plenty good enough to build upwards....plumb and it seems to do a fantastic job of level, horizontally.
It's not very good trying to make curve level but then again it doesn't logically need to unless someone invents a curved spirit bubble to do a job for a globe.
Chances?
Zero.
Why?
Because we do not walk upon a globe.

You have never tried explaining an experiment other than that and your own formula proves the futility of it.

I've explained enough.

Got anything better or do you remain having zero proof that water is flat?

I have all the proof I need. What you deem it to be is not my issue.

But you still refuse to say how you have done it yourself. I can't see an easy way to do it without specialist equipment that's why I am asking for your help

You don;t need my help.
Put your scientific mind to work.

 

[legend7]

I'm pretty sure, beyond more than reasonable doubt that the Earth is absolutely not a spinning globe in a space vacuum, whizzing around a huge 2 million mile plus circumference of a ball of fire.

Yep, because what I say I have proof of and weirdly, so do you. You just refuse to accept it.

But how are you pretty sure the centre is made of crystals.
And the dome of helium and hydrogen ice that gives perfect reflections but keeps melting and refreezing?
These are what we want to know about, what proof or experiments did you do to bring you to this?

Is that why the Krakatoa eruption caused a sound wave that travelled in a way exactly consistent with Earth being a globe, but it's definitely not because reasons?

It must have been bright all over the world that day as sound is the same as light remember

 

[fyl2u]

I can't prove it to you because your oceans curve around a big spinning sphere. How can I offer anything more to show it's level if that's your mindset?

It's not our "mindset". Unlike you, our minds aren't "set" at all. We're all scientific in our approaches. If someone were to show us a proper unbiased repeatable scientific experiment that proved the earth wasn't a globe, we'd all be forced to admit we were wrong. That's what normal people do, you see? If someone proves us wrong, we admit it, apologise, and alter our view of reality to fit the new information.

I say carry on with your globe and water staying on it. Same as anyone else.

Well, that is reality, so why wouldn't we?

It's what we were just about all brought up with, like Santa, the tooth fairy and all the rest of the magical stuff.

The man who invents a fantasy world with zero proof, none, to explain the maths and science of the real world that he can't get his feeble head around, then accuses everyone else of believing a fantasy. It's absolute gold. In a sad and pathetic way.

I'll admit I'm wrong when I'm proved wrong. None of it is coming from yourself.

You've been proven wrong hundreds of times now on this thread alone. You won't admit to even a single one of them though, because to do so would shatter your brittle little ego.

Do what?

Exactly.

No need.

Every need. You can't claim to have "done experiments" for something when you actually haven't. Not unless you want to be known as a liar. Then again, I guess that ship has sailed hull-first over the horizon already.

Why would anyone admit Earth is a spinning globe if they don't believe it is, other than fear of ridicule and ease of simply following the narrative?

You misunderstand.

Previously they DIDN'T believe it was a globe, they were some of the world's foremost globe deniers, but then they did some proper unbiased scientific experiments to try to prove it wasn't a globe. Unfortunately for them, their experiments actually proved that they had been wrong all along, and that the world is actually a globe after all. They then tried to cover up their findings because they didn't want their globe-denier cash cow to dry up.

So... were they telling the truth about being globe deniers who accidentally proved themselves wrong with proper scientific experiments, or were they in on the conspiracy all along, building up an internet following for years and years as globe deniers so that they could discredit the globe denier community by faking their eventual experiments that "proved" the world is a globe?

Real experiments that offer no proof of a spinning globe and absolutely no idea of space, except to follow the narrative set and view from that position.

No, real experiments. Unbiased experiments. Scientific experiments.

The world is 100% a globe.

Absolutely 100%, not.

Absolutely 100% is so.

Curved water level kills the cell world model dead.

 

[Nobby]

You don;t need my help.
Put your scientific mind to work.

I do because I can't see how, without very expensive, specialist equipment you have done your experiment with sufficient accuracy to prove there is no curvature on a body of water.

This is what an open mind does, it asks for help to understand and if what you describe as your experiment works, then my view will have to change.

I'm not asking you to convince me. I am asking you to explain how I can prove it myself