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forever changes said:
Why the fuck would a random human rights lawyer from America get involved in this circus 🎪 ? Got to be more in this ?
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Looking through her Twitter she is basically a Saudi lobbyist in the US, and only has a handful of Tweets about Newcastle. Her Tweets about Moran MP are as part of her Saudi lobbying role.

It’s all part of the wider conflict between Saudi Arabia and Qatar:
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There will be paid lobbyists from both nations in every country doing this. Part of if it is just ego…the Saudi, Qatari and Abu Dhabi princes all grew up as rivals at University etc. The Saudis have got fed up with AD and Qatar having such high global profile from sport, airlines, etc. Even random stuff like one article I read said the Saudis were annoyed that they played a role in evacuating Afghanistan but the UK and US only publicly thanked Qatar. So by buying a football club and setting up an airline (which the PIF are doing) then Saudi will hope to beat Qatar (PSG) and UAE (City) on the pitch and in the skies, whilst their lobbyists try to beat them on Twitter, in the media and diplomatically.

The saddest thing is that football clubs are just being used as pawns in this spat.
 

UpTheDuff said:
Looking through her Twitter she is basically a Saudi lobbyist in the US, and only has a handful of Tweets about Newcastle. Her Tweets about Moran MP are as part of her Saudi lobbying role.

It’s all part of the wider conflict between Saudi Arabia and Qatar:
You must be logged on to see external links


There will be paid lobbyists from both nations in every country doing this. Part of if it is just ego…the Saudi, Qatari and Abu Dhabi princes all grew up as rivals at University etc. The Saudis have got fed up with AD and Qatar having such high global profile from sport, airlines, etc. Even random stuff like one article I read said the Saudis were annoyed that they played a role in evacuating Afghanistan but the UK and US only publicly thanked Qatar. So by buying a football club and setting up an airline (which the PIF are doing) then Saudi will hope to beat Qatar (PSG) and UAE (City) on the pitch and in the skies, whilst their lobbyists try to beat them on Twitter, in the media and diplomatically.

The saddest thing is that football clubs are just being used as pawns in this spat.
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The PIF are setting up an airline? Wow, think you’re asking for trouble flying Saudi with them being behind the 9/11 attacks.
 
keybuk said:
I hadn't remembered Dell. Not that I've been giving it the big 'un'. Just been pointing out some of the hypocrisy on here. Nice to see some have finally conceded it's more about it being Newcastle that's stoked their anger than a lifelong interest in human rights.
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You do realise that the utter melt you're responding to is one of you're own.....?
Dreadnought said:
That doesn't put my mind to rest at all to be honest. I always thought he was an undercover Maggot.
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He is, without doubt.
 
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UpTheDuff said:
Looking through her Twitter she is basically a Saudi lobbyist in the US, and only has a handful of Tweets about Newcastle. Her Tweets about Moran MP are as part of her Saudi lobbying role.

It’s all part of the wider conflict between Saudi Arabia and Qatar:
You must be logged on to see external links


There will be paid lobbyists from both nations in every country doing this. Part of if it is just ego…the Saudi, Qatari and Abu Dhabi princes all grew up as rivals at University etc. The Saudis have got fed up with AD and Qatar having such high global profile from sport, airlines, etc. Even random stuff like one article I read said the Saudis were annoyed that they played a role in evacuating Afghanistan but the UK and US only publicly thanked Qatar. So by buying a football club and setting up an airline (which the PIF are doing) then Saudi will hope to beat Qatar (PSG) and UAE (City) on the pitch and in the skies, whilst their lobbyists try to beat them on Twitter, in the media and diplomatically.

The saddest thing is that football clubs are just being used as pawns in this spat.
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That's not true though is it?

Surely you know you can't just post random nonsense, on here, and expect to get away with it.
 
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UpTheDuff said:
Looking through her Twitter she is basically a Saudi lobbyist in the US, and only has a handful of Tweets about Newcastle. Her Tweets about Moran MP are as part of her Saudi lobbying role.

It’s all part of the wider conflict between Saudi Arabia and Qatar:
You must be logged on to see external links


There will be paid lobbyists from both nations in every country doing this. Part of if it is just ego…the Saudi, Qatari and Abu Dhabi princes all grew up as rivals at University etc. The Saudis have got fed up with AD and Qatar having such high global profile from sport, airlines, etc. Even random stuff like one article I read said the Saudis were annoyed that they played a role in evacuating Afghanistan but the UK and US only publicly thanked Qatar. So by buying a football club and setting up an airline (which the PIF are doing) then Saudi will hope to beat Qatar (PSG) and UAE (City) on the pitch and in the skies, whilst their lobbyists try to beat them on Twitter, in the media and diplomatically.

The saddest thing is that football clubs are just being used as pawns in this spat.
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Thanks for the insight mate. Her tweets and angle seem heavily anti-Qatar and in reply to one person said Kashoggi wasn’t a journalist he was a ‘Qatar propogradaist’ and used the word murdered in inverted commas.

VERY strange.
Bear Heed said:
That's not true though is it?

Surely you know you can't just post random nonsense, on here, and expect to get away with it.
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Correct. It’s a LOT more than a few and she’s now suddenly so invested in it all she’s a guest on a Newcastle podcast?? 🤣

I’d guess her attacks (‘investigations’ into) on MPs is because she’s not best happy with SA’s human rights issues being brought up because of the takeover.
 
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Peegee said:
Thanks for the insight mate. Her tweets and angle seem heavily anti-Qatar and in reply to one person said Kashoggi wasn’t a journalist he was a ‘Qatar propogradaist’ and used the word murdered in inverted commas.

VERY strange.

Correct. It’s a LOT more than a few and she’s now suddenly so invested in it all she’s a guest on a Newcastle podcast?? 🤣

I’d guess her attacks (‘investigations’ into) on MPs is because she’s not best happy with SA’s human rights issues being brought up because of the takeover.
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I think it is the fruitcake -
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Peegee said:
Correct. It’s a LOT more than a few and she’s now suddenly so invested in it all she’s a guest on a Newcastle podcast?? 🤣

I’d guess her attacks (‘investigations’ into) on MPs is because she’s not best happy with SA’s human rights issues being brought up because of the takeover.
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What @UpTheDuff is doing is trying to make all this sound normal and just a bunch of Uni lads having a laugh.

It's actually quite serious and very sad.
 
Peegee said:
Thanks for the insight mate. Her tweets and angle seem heavily anti-Qatar and in reply to one person said Kashoggi wasn’t a journalist he was a ‘Qatar propogradaist’ and used the word murdered in inverted commas.

VERY strange.

Correct. It’s a LOT more than a few and she’s now suddenly so invested in it all she’s a guest on a Newcastle podcast?? 🤣

I’d guess her attacks (‘investigations’ into) on MPs is because she’s not best happy with SA’s human rights issues being brought up because of the takeover.
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Yes by a ‘few’ I meant relative to her thousands and thousands of pro-Saudi and anti-Qatar tweets.

Kashoggi’s murder is horrific, but the fact no Western Government has officially stated the Saudis did it show a) the power of the diplomatic lobbying and b) the strategic importance of economic and diplomatic links with Saudi Arabia to the US, UK and EU.

It is weird and sad that pretty basic Newcastle fans and podcats who don’t seem to have much understanding of global affairs and international relations have been co-opted by the Saudis in this way. A colliding of two worlds.
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What @UpTheDuff is doing is trying to make all this sound normal and just a bunch of Uni lads having a laugh.

It's actually quite serious and very sad.
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What? No, the complete opposite. See my latest post. Of course it is serious…people are being executed and people are being bombed and their is a whole industry funded by Saudi to convince us they are not doing that. By pointing out the rivalry between countries and why they compete with one another is not making it sound normal or a laugh. You completely misunderstood.
 
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UpTheDuff said:
Yes by a ‘few’ I meant relative to her thousands and thousands of pro-Saudi and anti-Qatar tweets.

Kashoggi’s murder is horrific, but the fact no Western Government has officially stated the Saudis did it show a) the power of the diplomatic lobbying and b) the strategic importance of economic and diplomatic links with Saudi Arabia to the US, UK and EU.

It is weird and sad that pretty basic Newcastle fans and podcats who don’t seem to have much understanding of global affairs and international relations have been co-opted by the Saudis in this way. A colliding of two worlds.


What? No, the complete opposite. See my latest post. Of course it is serious…people are being executed and people are being bombed and their is a whole industry funded by Saudi to convince us they are not doing that. By pointing out the rivalry between countries and why they compete with one another is not making it sound normal or a laugh. You completely misunderstood.
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To be fair you said it was 'a handful of Tweets about Newcastle' which is misleading.

I totally understood what you actually said, it's not for people to decipher your words.
 
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Peegee said:
Pro Saudi. Is accusing MPs who have been criticising Saudi Arabia’s human rights records or being in bed with Qatar. The woman is tad unhinged by the sound of it. I managed to block her before she accused me of being a Qatar spy 🤣
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Tbf the above is what a Qatari spy might say...🤔
 
Bear Heed said:
To be fair you said it was 'a handful of Tweets about Newcastle' which is misleading.

I totally understood what you actually said, not what you were trying to suggest.
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Fair enough. Wrongly assuming people infer meaning and understanding context is always a problem with written online forums etc. Sorry.
 
UpTheDuff said:
Fair enough. Wrongly assuming people infer meaning and understanding context is always a problem with written online forums etc. Sorry.
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The context is irrelevant.

A handful is a handful.

If I have a handful of enemies it doesn't mean there aren't millions of people who might hate me.
 
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Zak's Dad said:
I mentioned this in an earlier part of the thread.
They're basically taking the play book for political action (Trump / Brexit / middle East politics), but applying it to this part of twitter - which is Football related.

So all of the deflect / attack / lie mud slinging tactics are being played out in front of people who just want to forget about the takeover and concentrate on football.

Unless someone stops them they'll continue with this as entirely normal and the more they do the more people will go - WFT is going on here?! "

It's hilarious.

:lol:
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Just waiting for Wilfred to start drumming up support for building a wall, or trying to convince us there'll be a punishment budget.
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