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Boycott Qatar

tunstallhill said:
by making an anti-racist gesture?

you can keep repeating that little phrase over and over and over, it doesn't mean it will eventually become the 'truth'

the only people to bring the taking-the-knee issue into this thread is people who are against it. in your mind all you see is 'lefties' being 'triggered' by it. i've re-read the thread and there isn't a single instance of that.

separating the two issues would be the smartest thing any one could do who truly wants to boycott Qatar
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The taking-the-knee issue was always about compulsion and that escaped so many of the left around the site. So, whether your performing a roman salute(1936), or giving interviews to the media to promote the tournament, or taking the knee and your compelled, be it orders from management, or peer pressure then your flat out wrong to say the two issues are separate.

I will boycott the tournament because the whole thing is crooked and the beautiful game has become increasingly corrupted. For those players who see race as 'the' most important issue, I don't see how a big fat cheque makes the issue lesser in your mind and that calls into question the morals in the first place and a serious lack of commitment when money is involved.
Ohnonotagain said:
Its a good test to see if football fans are genuine about the scum takeover. If people watch the World Cup held by a similar regime they are just as bad as the great unwashed. Unfortunately I have no morals and would have taken their money if offered, so I will be watching the England games at least.
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An honest man is a rare find.
 
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It should be boycotted, shouldn’t be played !
Otherwise it’s no different to mags saying ‘it’s football and I just support the team’
 
Is moving it the best thing to do? On one hand I think it is but on the other, I don't want the work of those people that have died to go to waste.
 
Thatheaderman said:
Talksport today.

Murphy said when he played he would not give a gnats ass about a country human rights.

Jordan agreed with him.

White the saudi hoop licker argued with them about their uninterest

Hypocrisy is rife. 2 mins listening was enough for me.
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People like this have two concerns. Money and themselves. The circles they move in are mostly the same with the same priorities.
They don’t really give a toss about anything else. Just about everything they do is driven by self interest. Gary Neville being a prime example. Crying his eyes out about the ESL and what an affront to decency it was. Because it threatened his employers revenue stream and his wages. You’d think he’d be up on his back legs about this and the Saudis, but oh no. Hypocrisy and greed run deep with most of this lot.
 
Tom the Pom said:
Should they have got it in the first place: No
Have there been human rights issues: Of course
Will I watch: Of course

It’s done now, we are playing there, we have known for years, if we qualified we would.

Will me watching affect any of this now: No


Move on FFS
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I said years ago I wouldn’t watch it. Will me alone doing this affect anything ? Probably not but it will make me Feel a bit better knowing I’m not endorsing ( or accepting is maybe a better word ) the deaths of over 6500 people that have died (so far) to make it happen. That’s just me and my opinion.
Dubai Si said:
Typical isn't it? Just as Scotland become favourites to win it, everyone starts talking about not going or watching it.
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Go if you want to go mate. Watch it if you want to. It’s up to you. We live in a society that has a choice.
 
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Sorry IF SEB, but from the Sunday Times -

In the strip-lit glare of the hospital ward in Kathmandu, Amit Ali Magar winced in pain as a nurse eased a needle into his arm. It was his second kidney dialysis session of the week, and afterwards he’d be so exhausted that he’d barely be able to stand. He had a high risk of having a heart attack or stroke, and an average life expectancy of between five and ten years. He was 24.
Magar did not envisage this future for himself when he left home for the Gulf three years ago. He was promised £220 a month and reasonable working conditions to work as a carpenter at the al-Thumama football stadium, one of the eight new and refurbished arenas being built for the World Cup in Qatar next year.
Like the former England captain David Beckham, who recently agreed a deal worth a reported £150 million to be a global ambassador for the tournament, he saw in the Gulf monarchy’s ambitious plans an opportunity to improve his circumstances.
But the reality proved very different for Magar, a talented footballer who used to play every day with his friends and who worshipped Neymar and Lionel Messi.
“It was really torture to work there,” he told me late last month in the hospital ward where he was waiting to be hooked up to a dialysis machine. Tens of thousands of migrant labourers have built the venues, hotels and infrastructure for next year’s tournament over a decade. Today, a silent plague of suffering among them can be revealed — in the plight of people like Magar, whose lives will be cut short by life-changing kidney damage that doctors say is likely to be linked to working conditions he experienced in Qatar.
In interviews, more than a dozen doctors and public health experts — most of them in Nepal — said that, based on their interactions with patients, significant numbers of healthy young men were leaving home to work in the Gulf and returning with kidney diseases so severe that they required either transplants or dialysis. Each doctor said that they saw new cases every month — some as many as ten a week — and many said they believed that the problem was becoming increasingly acute. Three estimated that about one fifth of dialysis patients in Nepal were workers who had returned from the Gulf.
The evidence will lead to extra scrutiny of the England team ahead of the World Cup. During qualifiers for the tournament, the Norwegian, Dutch and German national teams held on-pitch protests against Qatar’s human rights record. But in England criticism from within the game has so far been more muted.
In Qatar, Magar was forced to work outside all day in temperatures that can soar to over 45C. It was so hot, he said, that the workers used to pour water into their shoes so that their feet didn’t burn.
This unbearable heat persuaded the organisers to move the tournament from July 2022 to the end of November. Players, it was felt, wouldn’t be able to compete for 90 minutes in such temperatures, and fans would be uncomfortable.
For the migrant workers, however, it was apparently acceptable.
 
Amokachi said:
Sorry IF SEB, but from the Sunday Times -

In the strip-lit glare of the hospital ward in Kathmandu, Amit Ali Magar winced in pain as a nurse eased a needle into his arm. It was his second kidney dialysis session of the week, and afterwards he’d be so exhausted that he’d barely be able to stand. He had a high risk of having a heart attack or stroke, and an average life expectancy of between five and ten years. He was 24.
Magar did not envisage this future for himself when he left home for the Gulf three years ago. He was promised £220 a month and reasonable working conditions to work as a carpenter at the al-Thumama football stadium, one of the eight new and refurbished arenas being built for the World Cup in Qatar next year.
Like the former England captain David Beckham, who recently agreed a deal worth a reported £150 million to be a global ambassador for the tournament, he saw in the Gulf monarchy’s ambitious plans an opportunity to improve his circumstances.
But the reality proved very different for Magar, a talented footballer who used to play every day with his friends and who worshipped Neymar and Lionel Messi.
“It was really torture to work there,” he told me late last month in the hospital ward where he was waiting to be hooked up to a dialysis machine. Tens of thousands of migrant labourers have built the venues, hotels and infrastructure for next year’s tournament over a decade. Today, a silent plague of suffering among them can be revealed — in the plight of people like Magar, whose lives will be cut short by life-changing kidney damage that doctors say is likely to be linked to working conditions he experienced in Qatar.
In interviews, more than a dozen doctors and public health experts — most of them in Nepal — said that, based on their interactions with patients, significant numbers of healthy young men were leaving home to work in the Gulf and returning with kidney diseases so severe that they required either transplants or dialysis. Each doctor said that they saw new cases every month — some as many as ten a week — and many said they believed that the problem was becoming increasingly acute. Three estimated that about one fifth of dialysis patients in Nepal were workers who had returned from the Gulf.
The evidence will lead to extra scrutiny of the England team ahead of the World Cup. During qualifiers for the tournament, the Norwegian, Dutch and German national teams held on-pitch protests against Qatar’s human rights record. But in England criticism from within the game has so far been more muted.
In Qatar, Magar was forced to work outside all day in temperatures that can soar to over 45C. It was so hot, he said, that the workers used to pour water into their shoes so that their feet didn’t burn.
This unbearable heat persuaded the organisers to move the tournament from July 2022 to the end of November. Players, it was felt, wouldn’t be able to compete for 90 minutes in such temperatures, and fans would be uncomfortable.
For the migrant workers, however, it was apparently acceptable.
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Old piece I know. But when weve got greedy bastards like beckham whose net worth is estimated at around four hundred and fifty million dollars taking one hundred and fifty million pounds from Qatar to be their face of the World Cup, it’s worth revisiting.
when is enough money enough?
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