ALL NUFC and Sportwashing stuff in here. (Threads will be merged)

[Wayne The Punk]

Well they’d have to pay some kind of tribute to the blonde ballbag for “getting the deal done”

Give her a few years, she will look like Thatcher

 

[skullmeister]

Tin hat on but, much though he comes across as a twat, at least he's being honest. I've probably got more respect for that opinion than I do for those who pretend they do care but "there's nothing I can do" and "what about Disney"

Ultimately though, the majority of the fans, the local MPs, the local Journalists (and some national ones), the local TV stations, ex Players - they don't care about anything or anyone other than Newcastle winning more games.

There's honesty and there's being blatant, all cut from the same cloth. I hate them all in equal measure.

 

[Malloy]

So now that this has all blown over, and the richest club In the world have Eddie Howe as the manager, whats....

Sorry, lost my train of thought when I pissed myself at the thought of the richest club in the world and Eddie Howe in the same sentence.

Watch out Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea there's a new(castle) kid on the block. Keep your eyes on your letterboxes.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Really you "think it does"?!

When a SAFC fan says "your owner is the ruler of a kingdom that has killed 100,000 people in a proxy war in Yemen"?
The fact that its a SAFC fan saying it doesn't change the absolute truth of that statement.
It's true.

When a SAFC fan says "your owner is believed to be directly responsible for the murder of a journalist critical of him in a KSA consulate in a foreign country by assassins flown in on PIF purchased jets"?
The fact that its a SAFC fan saying it doesn't change the absolute truth of that statement.
It's true.

When a SAFC fan says "your fans wanted to be taken over by the KSA so much that groups lobbied and abused the Premier League on a daily basis for months and 110,000 of them signed a petition to the government to allow it?"
The fact that its a SAFC fan saying it doesn't change the absolute truth of that statement.
It's true.

When a SAFC fan says "the KSA has a terrible record of human rights for women and minority groups, and women who have sex outside of marriage or men who have sex with men are put to death?"
The fact that its a SAFC fan saying it doesn't change the absolute truth of that statement.
It's true.

Whilst it might be comforting for you to think I have an agenda and therefore you shouldn't place much emphasis on what I say?

None of the above is opinion, therefore your belief that 'because its SAFC fans making those points they aren't valid' is actually a lie.

Your points may be valid but my stance is rigid. I'm A Newcastle fan and supporter and will continue to be, whoever owns the club.
The politics of what's behind the owners or their country is for politicians to argue and decide on.

All the rest of it comes down to subjective reasoning and morality by people.
We have new owners. The Reuben Brothers, Staveley and PIF.
We can argue that the Reuben Brothers are complicit as well as Staveley.
We can then have a go at anyone who buys into any of that which include players, staff and fans, plus anyone connected with the club whether it's catering or advertisers/sponsors...and so on.
Then we have to go down the deeper rabbit hole and find out what's associated with PIF in this country and test the morality of people taking part in any thing that sides with this. I think you get the gist.

And this is where subjective reasoning and morality comes into play.

you very predictably ignored my post about how you’d feel if your gay club supporters were being put to death and female fans being not allowed to drive to matches but a part from that not a bad effort.

Let me make this clear.
I'm all for life being fair. If I had the power to make all of life as fair as possible, I'd do it.
I have no issues with females driving, working or whatever.
I have no issues with people who are gay or whatever else a person may be that's different from majority.
I have no issues with race.
I would like to see no atrocities, ever.
If being a fan of Newcastle United makes me some kind of monster then so be it but my mindset is to go about life and as part of it, support and be a fan of Newcastle United like I've done for nigh on all my life and the only time that will change is if the club ceases to exist or the people who own the club decide to take the club out of the English league and into a Euro or other league away from the English game.

Are you suddenly blaming all football fans for not kicking up a stink and preventing the takeover….??

I'm not blaming anyone. I didn't want it.

You’re something else!

I'm me and what you think I am is your business and you're welcome to it..

I'm a German citizen and I'll leave the politics to those who can genuinely deal with the ethics of those politics. The current politicians don't seem to have any if they're not all het up about all these Jews going to holiday camps like you are.
Surely they should be...right?

All politicians should be there for the good of the people.
Clearly most are there for the good of themselves and those like themselves.
The one's that are for the people are likely few and far between and have little input on the welfare of those/us people.

Just deflecting

Deflecting what?

 

[Deleted member 49400]

What I picked up in the Howe interview was the players ARE good enough, and there WILL be sacrifices, there WILL be a lot of hard work.

Which indicates they weren't performing for Bruce. Can he seriously get a tune out of them? They still have players who played in the championship 5 years ago.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I am so pleased it is not 1942. You would be using that about the jews or the gay community in Germany. Just say it how it is, you can have a look on the Amnesty website, loads on there. Loads of respect for the nufc supporters who tell it how it is, you can still support your team without sticking your head in the sand.

It doesn't matter what date it is. If we had the power to stop all things bad we'd do it. Why don't we do it?
It's so easy for people to blame whoever and whatever for abiding by whatever or whoever but pointing blame does not solve anything.

If people have such morals then we wouldn't be debating any of this because if the mass majority of people with those apparent morals stood up and collectively went against everything bad, we'd be fine....right?

This is why reasoning and morality are subjective.
It's just about what peaks the interest of people as and when something does not conform to their ideals.

Fuckking stand up and make your voice heard that you don't want your club to be associated with this. And don't dare tell me there's nothing you can do as you spent over a decade trying to get rid of Ashley. Even if pif don't listen at least the rest of the world would know that you don't represent the ideologies of your current owners

I don't represent the ideologies of the owners in terms of their part in politics of their country...etc.
Making my voice heard will do nothing.
Why doesn't the entire country make their voice heard for everything in it that has anything to do with these people because PIF does not just stretch to Newcastle United....or is that another argument and the concentration is solely on the morals of Newcastle fans, which then has to stretch to all of Newcastle because these people are now part of it.
So that mean everyone should not only cease to support the club but also cease to support the entire city.
And then it has to filter down into cities and towns that have anything to do with PIF.

So what is it to be?

@Nukehasslefan why are you actually on the SMB? What’s your main motive?

I think it's a fantastic forum.
My motive is being part of a forum that is much more interesting than many.
You see, I don't see it as a rival forum, I see it as a fans forum and a general forum that allows all kinds of mindsets whether football or other.

So he can go on one of their boards or on twatter and tell all his associates how he wound all the mackumz up

If I had issues with you and your likewise posters on here or issues with Sunderland, I could well do what you mention.
However, I don't have any issues with any of you or your club.
I'd love nothing more than to see all north east clubs competing at the highest level they're capable of, which means Sunderland are capable of doing what Newcastle are capable of, which is playing at the highest level...and have done and will likely do again. And I mean at the top end, not languishing at the bottom end of the premier league like we've (both clubs) been doing.

I'm not after brownie points.

 

[Exile 1968]

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Does this mean, by association, which the Mags are World Champions at, they have now been Saudi Champions 27 times or summit

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Good plan if they’re that pissed off at them. Test will be when the mugs offer 20 mil for a shit player not getting a game who is worth 5 at best. One of those teams will crack.

Or a player out of contract who can do what they want regardless of the club they were with not wanting it.
At least it'll also stop any premier club from trying to raid any of our players, so it's not all bad.

Thing is, unless they can skate around FFP, if they have to massively overpay to get any business done, it'll fuck them up in terms of trying to improve further. Mind, foreign clubs won't give a fuck so I'm sure there'll still be plenty of signings they could make

I personally don't think they'll be that stupid.
Q.P.R methods will likely have offered some very valuable experience in that category. But....we'll just have to see.

Or the players. A player on £60k per week being offered double those wages but then I suppose the club would need to give permission for the player to talk to Newcastle.

I think we'd go elsewhere if that was the case.

Mercenary Utd

It could well be but I hope they're smarter than that. I believe they are.

I would imagine so. It’s not going to be the walk in the park the mags think it is.

It's never a walk in the park with north east clubs anyway.
I don;t think many will be expecting any walk in the park but I think it'll be a better stroll.

What I picked up in the Howe interview was the players ARE good enough, and there WILL be sacrifices, there WILL be a lot of hard work.

Which indicates they weren't performing for Bruce. Can he seriously get a tune out of them? They still have players who played in the championship 5 years ago.

I'm quietly confident he will get a lot more from the players because the man has an attitude of fitness and attention to detail and also a mindset of attacking is the best for of defence.
It doesn't guarantee you winning games but it does suggest we'll get a lot more out of the players that were stifled by spending far too much time sitting back.

If he plays players in positions that better suit, which I think he will and gets them up to speed; I can see a major difference coming and a much better potential for hope to get out of the relegation scrap by the season's end.

I think the job became too toxic for Bruce and I think everyone suffered for that.
A new chapter. A New beginning. Fingers crossed from me we hit the ground running.

 

[Roker Mackem]

Or a player out of contract who can do what they want regardless of the club they were with not wanting it.
At least it'll also stop any premier club from trying to raid any of our players, so it's not all bad.

I personally don't think they'll be that stupid.
Q.P.R methods will likely have offered some very valuable experience in that category. But....we'll just have to see.

I think we'd go elsewhere if that was the case.

It could well be but I hope they're smarter than that. I believe they are.

It's never a walk in the park with north east clubs anyway.
I don;t think many will be expecting any walk in the park but I think it'll be a better stroll.

I'm quietly confident he will get a lot more from the players because the man has an attitude of fitness and attention to detail and also a mindset of attacking is the best for of defence.
It doesn't guarantee you winning games but it does suggest we'll get a lot more out of the players that were stifled by spending far too much time sitting back.

If he plays players in positions that better suit, which I think he will and gets them up to speed; I can see a major difference coming and a much better potential for hope to get out of the relegation scrap by the season's end.

I think the job became too toxic for Bruce and I think everyone suffered for that.
A new chapter. A New beginning. Fingers crossed from me we hit the ground running.

Bruce was toxic from the start man

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Bruce was toxic from the start man

I didn't think so.
I actually liked him and was willing to give him a chance.
I thought he did ok until late when it all started to get too much for him.
His issue was, he was never really wanted by a fair section of fans and if people are honest they'd also reason it was mainly because of his association with Sunderland.
Many will argue it wasn't but I'm not having that.

 

[woodlebert]

I didn't think so.
I actually liked him and was willing to give him a chance.
I thought he did ok until late when it all started to get too much for him.
His issue was, he was never really wanted by a fair section of fans and if people are honest they'd also reason it was mainly because of his association with Sunderland.
Many will argue it wasn't but I'm not having that.

Does that not make him toxic from the start?

 

[I'm Spartacus]

Or a player out of contract who can do what they want regardless of the club they were with not wanting it.
At least it'll also stop any premier club from trying to raid any of our players, so it's not all bad.

I personally don't think they'll be that stupid.
Q.P.R methods will likely have offered some very valuable experience in that category. But....we'll just have to see.

I think we'd go elsewhere if that was the case.

It could well be but I hope they're smarter than that. I believe they are.

It's never a walk in the park with north east clubs anyway.
I don;t think many will be expecting any walk in the park but I think it'll be a better stroll.

I'm quietly confident he will get a lot more from the players because the man has an attitude of fitness and attention to detail and also a mindset of attacking is the best for of defence.
It doesn't guarantee you winning games but it does suggest we'll get a lot more out of the players that were stifled by spending far too much time sitting back.

If he plays players in positions that better suit, which I think he will and gets them up to speed; I can see a major difference coming and a much better potential for hope to get out of the relegation scrap by the season's end.

I think the job became too toxic for Bruce and I think everyone suffered for that.
A new chapter. A New beginning. Fingers crossed from me we hit the ground running.

You’ve been up since half 5 on a rivals message board feebly trying to justify supporting a club owned by a shithouse despotic murderous regime. You’re wasting your time, enjoy the blood money, you and the 110,000 others fought long and hard for it.

 

[s1black2000]

it would be funny if they went down.
Howe is a decent enough manager, but wasn't his last game in charge one that took Bournemouth down?

I guess they may spend their way out of it in January.

Villa will probably have enough to stay up.

 

[Mackem2017]

Hahahahaha twat

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[Roker Mackem]

Breaking: Eddie Howe takes out injunction against Pearson

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Does that not make him toxic from the start?

For some, yes. For me and others....no.

 

[Stormo]

Hahahahaha twat

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Creepy little toad

 

[Nukehasslefan]

You’ve been up since half 5 on a rivals message board feebly trying to justify supporting a club owned by a shithouse despotic murderous regime. You’re wasting your time, enjoy the blood money, you and the 110,000 others fought long and hard for it.

Wasting time is also subjective.
One persons time wasting is another persons comfort.
As for enjoying blood money. I think we're all using blood money in life but once again the morality of it is massively diverse and subjective.
I'll enjoy being a fan of Newcastle as I've always done.

 

[I'm Spartacus]

Hahahahaha twat

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This really is cult mentality. He’d drink the kool-aid no question. Fuck me man it’s massively worrying bizarre behaviour.

 

[Mackem2017]

This really is cult mentality. He’d drink the kool-aid no question. Fuck me man it’s massively worrying bizarre behaviour.

He wrote that letter himself I bet. Said it was when Rafa left in 2018 but Rafa left in 2019.