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Racism at Yorkshire CCC


West_Winger said:
He’s in a no-win situation imo.

Say yes and he’ll be asked who it was and why didn’t he do something about it himself

Say no and he’ll be accused of brushing it under the carpet.

I’m not defending him at all but the hierarchy at Yorkshire has brought all this on themselves.
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Nah, it's actually very simple.

Even if you don't see a friend or colleague experience racism or sexual assault, if they say it happened, you back them. You say while I didn't see it, I believe them and support them.

Or you can be an arse covering weasel
 
Mackem DJ said:
Why has rafiq taken issue with what Joe Root has said there. Any ideas?

yeah quite possible. Not sure why @hudson88 pal would want to discredit him for instance but who knows.

Interesting wording.
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He has no reason to discredit him whatsoever.

Again, that Rafiq has shown himself to be a bellend in front of my mate could mean nowt, he could be a very decent lad for all I know.

Bellend or not, he doesn’t deserve racist abuse
 
maghater said:
Funny thing a former England captain is accused of racism in 2009 which he denies, is taken off air and pilloried, yet in the same year a member of the royal family uses the P word, and nothing happens. Sponsors quit YCC quicker than a Tory donor gets a knighthood, yet the royal family sponsors (thats us tax payers ) continue to fawn over them like the unwashed over Bin Salman
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Are you genuinley surprised that the Royal Family have different rules to the rest of us mate
 
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Mackem DJ said:
Why has rafiq taken issue with what Joe Root has said there. Any ideas?
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Its way too late, and it's very much a "this is a societal problem, it affects everyone" sort of PR mealy mouthed template. Very clearly written so as not to offend as many people as possible. And crucially, while it says racism is intolerable, he dosent actually condemn the people involved, and barely if at all even credits it explicitly happened. It makes racism sound like a thing that happens as a sort of social phenomenon as opposed to an abusive act by named and known individuals. Fundamentally its about him and how upset he is, and bottom line is that's actually f***ing outrageous when there's genuine victims involved, but again, par for the course in these instances.
Hettonlass said:
Zimbabwean, moved to England aged 16-17
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He's Caucasian though I think? Not mixed race or anything

Assuming he's white Zimbabwean then racial slurs will be endemic to his upbringing I suspect
 
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Hettonlass said:
Zimbabwean, moved to England aged 16-17
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He may have done, he may not have done. As a young Pakistani cricketer getting racially abused from all quarters it is possible that initially he thought the best way to deal with it was to go along with it, give a bit back. However when the weight of racist comments day in day out from players, coaches and a culture steeped in accepting racism it may all have come to much. There is no evidence that Rafiq did say anything but if he did it would have been in that context.
 
(To clarify re Ballance, I mean endemic in respect to his culture using racial slurs)
rentaghost said:
He may have done, he may not have done. As a young Pakistani cricketer getting racially abused from all quarters it is possible that initially he thought the best way to deal with it was to go along with it, give a bit back. However when the weight of racist comments day in day out from players, coaches and a culture steeped in accepting racism it may all have come to much. There is no evidence that Rafiq did say anything but if he did it would have been in that context.
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Bottom line is they're not the same. There isn't a single racial slur against white people that has the same amount of force and power and hate behind it as white racial slurs against Black people and people of colour, because one is coming from a history of domininance and power and the other is a reaction to being dominated and powerless
 
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sonson said:
(To clarify re Ballance, I mean endemic in respect to his culture using racial slurs)

Bottom line is they're not the same. There isn't a single racial slur against white people that has the same amount of force and power and hate behind it as white racial slurs against Black people and people of colour, because one is coming from a history of domininance and power and the other is a reaction to being dominated and powerless
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Yes of course fair enough
 
Mackem DJ said:
Find it hard to believe Joe Root would stand up for homosexuality but not against racism had he heard it mind.
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Roots response re Homophobia was in relation to an insult from Gabriel though, a WI player

Comparatively easy to call out one individual playing for a different country.

Requires much bigger stones to accept the club that you've loved all your life, and that comprises much of your friends and family circle, is institutionally racist.
 
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