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Father Jack Hackett said:
We aren't talking about people supporting their club, we are talking about the 110,000 who petitioned the Saudis (yes, just the Saudis) to be your new owners. It wasn't "anyone but Ashley" as many if you are now saying, it was these and these only.
We are also talking about those coming onto social media platforms to, at best deflect from their barbarism or, at worst defend it (not their club, this regime, by the way). I think you may fall into the former.

The Saudi state employ thousands of "flies"(as they're known in the Dissident) who soemd nigt and day om social media attacking anyone speaking out against the state and defending it. You and you ilk are doing it for free, you ARE the Saudi state now so own it, wear the badge but don't come whingeing on here about us having a go because this is what you are.
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We'll be whatever people decide we'll be in their own mind and as a peer pressured collective.
Carry on with what you need to get off your chest but it won't stop me from being a Newcastle United fan and supporter.
 

Zak's Dad said:
I'm going to try to stop the emotional stuff and laughter and try to think about this rationally.

They've adopted an almost 'seige like' mentality where its them against the unfair world, and they have invested so heavily emotionally in the KSA they see themselves as 'allies' or even 'as one'.

From there they see things very differently:
An attack on the KSA's human rights record is an attack on them.
Everybody is against them and they must point out the new conversations as 'jealousy, bitterness or hypocrisy'.

The really interesting thing about this is the lack of reflection and soul searching by the vast majority of NUFC fans I see on social media.

This is a new and incredibly complex issue that throws up some really jarring differences between "who I think I am as a human being and my beliefs, values and moral centre" and "what I'll put up with and actually defend if there's the possibility of a reward for me".

There's been a few NUFC supporters on this thread and on social media who've thought through this, but the overwhelming majority haven't just kept their head below the parapet - they've actively thrown themselves into the fight - not to defend the club, but to defend the KSA!

It's "Jones Town kool aid" levels of denial.
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There will be no soul searching mate. They know what they’ve done and they know there’s no way out. Throughout all of this ive not seen one single valid rebuttal of any of the points levelled at them. That’s because there isn’t one. If there was it would have been plastered all over the sports pages before now. There are two main reasons most of the media have been studiously ignoring the elephant in the room. One will be government pressure although I can’t prove it, the other is simply because it’s indefensible.
They have sacrificed any moral values and humanity they may have had on the altar of greed and a few new players. It’s not the first time we’ve seen people look the other way when it benefits them to do so and it won’t be the last. The mags as per have gone way over the top and are fully behind this regime. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that a game is more important than human life to them.
 
Mr Redknapp said:
TBF that's spot on. I will say the other clubs in the NE are pretty screwed on too. Boro never seem to go on like this? :lol:

It's still more than what any Newcastle director has done :lol:
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Boro during their most successful period never went on like these nobheeds, and thats before the Saudis showed up.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Whatever is was bought for is out of my hands.
If there's a football team playing called Newcastle United, plying their trade in England then I'm supporting it, regardless.

Nothing I can do about that.

Have any came out and said they're ecstatic about atrocities or ecstatic about the club being taken over and Ashley gone?

I do support my club and football was sold to the devil a long time ago. As for me, I simply enjoy the football and enjoy supporting my club. The politics are not my issue.
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there was something you could do about Mike Ashley though?
 
Zak's Dad said:
:lol:

"it's simply bitterness".

You do realise that constantly attacking the motives and agenda of people making a point in no way diminishes the veracity of the point?
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I think it does.
Zak's Dad said:
And if all you do it attack the people making the point for having ulterior motives and an aganda against you - you're actually reinforcing the fact that they do "have a point"?
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That depends on the point being made. It seems mixed as in having a go at a regime and lumping everyone into it in any way shape or form. I call it bitterness.
Zak's Dad said:
Because you constantly ignore it and will do anything other than address it?
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Nothing to address other than what I've already said.
Zak's Dad said:
As the "template for responses" put out by NUFC fans succinctly put it:

"Deflect! Deflect! Deflect!"

:lol:
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I wouldn't call it deflecting. I'd call it not wanting to get people stirred up into a hate filled frenzy.
 
Don’t think Eddie Howe would be happy to learn his number 1 was calling him a disgrace last week
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Nukehasslefan said:
Whatever is was bought for is out of my hands.
If there's a football team playing called Newcastle United, plying their trade in England then I'm supporting it, regardless.

Nothing I can do about that.

Have any came out and said they're ecstatic about atrocities or ecstatic about the club being taken over and Ashley gone?

I do support my club and football was sold to the devil a long time ago. As for me, I simply enjoy the football and enjoy supporting my club. The politics are not my issue.
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All of the above shows that YOU have ZERO moral fibre.
Nothing you can do???…are you kidding me?
Does following a football club mean more to you than basic humanitarian values?
There is PLENTY that can be done….starting with boycotting (correct spelling, I know….) the club and following your beliefs.
….except you don’t have any real beliefs do you?
You can now have no more thoughts on human rights, women’s rights, gay rights, murdering of dissidents or the obscene bombing of innocent people in another country.
Your thoughts on such matters are now crystal clear by your lack of protest against and shallow support of the regime that is guilty of running roughshod over basic humanitarian issues.

To paraphrase John Lennon: How do you sleep?
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Whatever is was bought for is out of my hands.
If there's a football team playing called Newcastle United, plying their trade in England then I'm supporting it, regardless.

Nothing I can do about that.

Have any came out and said they're ecstatic about atrocities or ecstatic about the club being taken over and Ashley gone?

I do support my club and football was sold to the devil a long time ago. As for me, I simply enjoy the football and enjoy supporting my club. The politics are not my issue.
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That Devil didn't have blood on his hands
 
Nukehasslefan said:
We'll be whatever people decide we'll be in their own mind and as a peer pressured collective.
Carry on with what you need to get off your chest but it won't stop me from being a Newcastle United fan and supporter.
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I would absolutely hope it doesn't. Genuine Newcastle fans are no different to any others. Its the dafties who are defending Saudi Arabia online that are the problem.
 
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