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janey said:
Even if they brought in a new manager tomorrow they can’t buy any players until January and like you say, they could be cut adrift by then. If Leeds were to win tomorrow they are 6 points adrift.
And, I’m not sure any superstars will be jumping for joy, to join a relegation threatened club.
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They’ll attract has beens and nobodies in January who have no interest in saving club from relegation
They need bsa
 
keybuk said:
I just don't know what you lot expect people like me to do. Go on list them out. Then ask yourself if given the same situation whether you'd do the same.
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Here's a short list, it is in no way comprehensive:-

1)Admit that you have been taken over by a despicable regime AND CONDEMN THEM.
2)Don't try and claim flags from the opposition pointing out the atrocities of your owners are racist.
3)And don't try false equivalence with Disney/Uber/Abramovic to try and justify it
4) Admit that it has happened because you lobbied MPs, signed petitions and aggressively activated for it to happen. Instead of saying that the owners are nowt to do with you.

5) Don't go and give them money.

To answer the last bit, I did stop going, loads of people I know did when PDC was made manager. We had a campaign including Durham miners speaking out against it. Ultimately his position was made untenable because of the outcry against a fascist manager, and we, the fans were responsible for his removal.

In fact, we did pretty much the exact opposite of what you lot are doing.
 
keybuk said:
No and no.

But were human rights abuses in Saudi regularly discussed on the SMB before he was murdered?
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It's a message board it's most likely was discussed. Maybe not as much as now. We also didn't discuss the Louis-Dreyfus family or group either.

When PIF bought NUFC Saudi Arabia's human rights were being highlighted. Just like Russia's and Qatar's were when they won the rights for the World Cup. If a Mexican cartel bought Norwich people be outraged and bring up their crimes, even though we might not talk about it all the time.

Your takeover shined a new light on Saudi Arabia. It was always an issue. It's not got more people's attention.
 
Redandwhitedust said:
No one is asking you not to go. I still listen to Lostprophets from time to time. I liked their music in the same way you like Newcastle United. What I am not doing is going onto music forums trying to deflect and defend them in the way you and your fans do

I'm not wearing their tshirts and singing the praises of them because "no one hated them before".

I have respect for any fan who just goes to the matches and supports their team. To steal one of your clubs quotes "support the team, not the regime". But many of your fans begged these in, they petitioned authorities to allow them in, and are continuing to defend them. You are defending them.

Go to the match, cheer your players and stop pretending that somehow this takeover is right.
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Well you may not be, but I don't think that's universal.

I'm not defending anyone just railing against the moral outrage that has descended on this place out of nowhere.

I'm not sure what you expected those that petitioned(I didn't). It was the Saudis or nobody. Unlike Ellis Short, Ashley wasn't prepared to cut his losses and run. There was something holding the deal up and it appears to be it was about the impact this money would have on the league, particularly by the so called big 6 with their lobbying of the PL.

I've not heard anyone suggest that the league stops selling matches to places like Saudi, Turkey, Russia, Myanmar, China.

Do I want the Saudis involved with Newcastle? Not particularly. Do I think fans of other clubs would shun them? No.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong. But that flag that the Mags unveiled today. Did it have a mosque on it in the bottom corner ?
If so the sportwashing of them is well and truly gathering pace
 
keybuk said:
. It was the Saudis or nobody. Unlike Ellis Short, Ashley wasn't prepared to cut his losses and run
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Except it wasn't

Ashley had you running on an even keel, only in the heads of Newcastle fans was he a problem. OK so you weren't living up to your fans deluded expectations. But you signed a £40m player (who turned out to be shit).
You were hardly in danger of administration.

#wewantsaudi appeared when there was any talk of rival bids or other parties. All your fanbase wants is to be significant. The Saudis gave you that,
 
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