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ALL NUFC and Sportwashing stuff in here. (Threads will be merged)

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Squat said:
do you really need to ask that? rich, richer, and off the scale. did you not see the party in the street when this lot bought you? you think they would do that if it was a relative pauper bought you?
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Everyone is a relative pauper to this bunch. But would the fans have kicked stones and moaned if someone like Leicester's owners pitched up? Or this Mexican Orleggi group? They'd have been celebrating in the streets just the same.
 

Urraca said:
Well 97% of those that for whatever reason decide to spend their time responding to surveys 😉. As with most surveys I find it hard to believe the type of people who have the free time to respond are representative. Same with the kind of people who push agendas on Twitter rather than spending time on hobbies or family.

There are lots of fans and not all of them in the UK. They aren't a homogeneous clump who all think the same. Some don't care, some will turn their back on the club, some will keep supporting their team with an uneasy conscience, some will say "support the team not the regime".

But in the end what they think and feel doesn't change the fact that they don't have the power to approve or block the sale of their club. In my opinion responsibility should go up the chain not down. Its those with real power who should be questioned by media, more so than the fans. To be fair some have made this point (totally football show for example) but some have focussed on the fans, which imo is punching down.
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This 110,000 vote petition along with all the shenanigans since it was getting delayed adds a lot more than a survey saying 97%. If the mag fans had kicked off about not wanting the Saudi's in the exact opposite way they begged for it then would it have put the Saudi's off? I think they would have and Saudi's may have gone elsewhere. The thought of huge money has bought many fans and sportswashing has worked to the extreme with the mags.

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Urraca said:
I think some do understand and will have varying reactions, as I noted in my response to exile.

The point is whatever they feel, the cant do much about it. The premier league's regulations, and the government (if allegations they leaned on the premier league) ought to be the ones being asked the questions in the media.
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They could let their voices and disapproval be heard for a start. They certainly managed that plenty with Ashley.

They could not dance around the streets celebrating the arrival of a despotic regime. They could not take to social media to undertake the Saudi governments bidding by being complicit in their sportswashing with deflection and whataboutery. They could not stand en masse to give MBS's right hand man a rapturous standing ovation...

In this instance there's been no dissenting voices.
 
Urraca said:
I think some do understand and will have varying reactions, as I noted in my response to exile.

The point is whatever they feel, the cant do much about it. The premier league's regulations, and the government (if allegations they leaned on the premier league) ought to be the ones being asked the questions in the media.
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I agree questions should be asked of the PL/government. But newcastle fans are openly engaging in sportwashing of the saudi image pretty much enmasse. 99% couldn't care less about what their owners have done and what they stand for. Its a shame to see people from the NE act like this tbh.
 
Market Where? said:
Well 100k plus of you signed a petition prostituting yourselves to the fascist regime. How many campaigned for the other groups?
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Did they have bids accepted?
North Yorks Mackem said:
I agree questions should be asked of the PL/government. But newcastle fans are openly engaging in sportwashing of the saudi image pretty much enmasse. 99% couldn't care less about what their owners have done and what they stand for. Its a shame to see people from the NE act like this tbh.
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Sorry like, but that's utter bollocks.
 
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NYMackem said:
I'm only going to back horses that can trace their lineage to the Byerley Turk now in protest at this takeover.
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That came from Serbia originally, they don't have the best recent history either, but then a bit ethnic cleansing didn't hurt anyone did it!
 
Sons of The Wear said:
TALK SHITE live from The Centurion in Newcastle Central Station this morning. Anyone able to infiltrate? 🤣
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Did you hear John Hall just after 10:30am slavering on and his whataboutery? 🤪 Wraith and Craig Hope will also be on later so no doubt more jibber jabber.
 
Guinness Guzzler said:
I certainly wouldn't say Bruce is as good as benitez, if I had to choose for Sunderland it would be benitez every time. That being said I don't think the job he did at Newcastle was good enough, or better than Bruce enough, to warrant the seemingly endless adulation from the Newcastle fans whilst Bruce is pretty much seen as the worst manager of all time
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i agree and I’ve been consistently vocal about this.
Benitez probably marginally did a better job despite playing a role in a relegation but Bruce absolutely did nowhere near as bad a job as people make out.
Benitez did a steady ok job, nothing more.
 
Wraith on now - tosser! First line "Welcome to Newcastle upon tyne, the home of the richest team in the world".
 
The Fish said:
Did they have bids accepted?

Sorry like, but that's utter bollocks.
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Don't think it is bollox. I was in a pub in Kenton when it was announced and all were going mental. I got the years of pain nonsense, and did point out it could be a lot worse, like 4 seasons in third division, but that went over their deluded heads. Some were talking about getting Pep in. It was great.
On the other foot, I know one lad who has cut up his season ticket, but he is only dissenting voice I've heard, and I live in Tyneside.
Appreciate you holding up your end and you deserve better. Not sure many, if any, sunlun fans would want to trade owners.
 
The Fish said:
Benitez has the freedom to spend on players within a budget at Everton. Benitez wasn't allowed to sign Townsend when we had the funds in the Championship, he wasn't allowed to sign Rondon for £16m because he was thought to be too old. Bruce signed Wilson for £20m. Guess how old they each were at the time?

Let a good manager build a team and you'll see greater rewards than haphazardly spending £40m on Joelinton with no idea who the manager is, let alone how to fit such an expensive player into that style.

But you stick to misrepresenting my words.
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You just stick to changing the narrative to fit. Freedom to build a team changed to freedom to spend within a budget? That’s not really the same thing is it? And we all know that you lot don’t like spending within budgets, all you do is scream on about net spend
 
Billy Fish said:
Totally ignored my point.

Newcastle football Club was born here, and although their players aren't thoroughbreds they're getting all the stick for taking Saudi money and it's questioned which manager would take their coin.
In the racing world over here there is millions of pounds of Saudi Money swilling around but nobody is questioning the Jockey Club or the training stables why they're taking it and the general public are more than willing to back and cheer their horses.
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Clutching at straws mind u dont break that camels back with them
 
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