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Put a flat earthier into space

monkeytassle said:
1) No. No no no it doesn't I can assure you nasa would prefer to use less fuel and have no atmosphere the fuel is expended escaping the gravitational pull of the earth
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NASA does use less fuel. They simply don't send 3000 ton rockets into space. It's all gunk.
monkeytassle said:
2)wrong again. How many control surfaces do you see here?

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I can get you loads of pictures and videos of rockets.
Would you like to see some?
You might argue they're not real and are just in films.
I'd have to say, well.....hmmmmmmm, what are you showing me?
 

Nukehasslefan said:
NASA does use less fuel. They simply don't send 3000 ton rockets into space. It's all gunk.

I can get you loads of pictures and videos of rockets.
Would you like to see some?
You might argue they're not real and are just in films.
I'd have to say, well.....hmmmmmmm, what are you showing me?
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Post me a photo of a rocket pls
 
Nukehasslefan said:
It kills gravity stone dead.
And gravity is such a weak force when it suits. It's utter nonsense.

You can do that yourself if you don't allow peer pressure to dictate your findings.
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One thing to consider, if there was no air in the glass at all, then there would be no atmospheric pressure to push the water down. Even without the beer mat, the glass is blocking the pushing force from above so there is no reason the water would fall. You could slide the beer mat away, poke a straw into the water, blow some bubbles and out it would drop. It would be a fun party trick.

But this doesn't happen. It is almost like there is some force pulling the water down.
Kevj said:
No, you are dismissing the fundamental principles on which fluid mechanics is based, which is also the basis or linked to all other science.
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He uses the same principal to dismiss light travelling through space.

Light needs a medium to travel (and it is also the same thing as sound, snigger) because he thinks it does. No other reason, he just feels like because a train needs a train track and a kite needs the wind, light needs something too.
 
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DaveH said:
One thing to consider, if there was no air in the glass at all, then there would be no atmospheric pressure to push the water down. Even without the beer mat, the glass is blocking the pushing force from above so there is no reason the water would fall.
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Remember that when you try to use gravity.
DaveH said:
You could slide the beer mat away, poke a straw into the water, blow some bubbles and out it would drop. It would be a fun party trick.
But this doesn't happen. It is almost like there is some force pulling the water down.
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Yes and that force would be atmospheric pressure pushing into the water at the edges if you took away the beer mat. It only has to be out os perfect level for it to be breached.
The beer mat stops this and you could even poke holes in the beer mat and water still wouldn't run out.

Atmospheric pressure is overlooked for a reason. It's because it kills off a lot of the gunk about a spinning Earth and space, etc, so gravity and special relativity is used.

Rockets work fine in atmosphere. They simply do not work without it.
 
Not sure if you saw this post before.

"Water is always level, it does not conform to the shape of a globe" - Turns out it does:
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Do you have an explanation for that?
Nukehasslefan said:
Remember that when you try to use gravity.

Yes and that force would be atmospheric pressure pushing into the water at the edges if you took away the beer mat. It only has to be out os perfect level for it to be breached.
The beer mat stops this and you could even poke holes in the beer mat and water still wouldn't run out.

Atmospheric pressure is overlooked for a reason. It's because it kills off a lot of the gunk about a spinning Earth and space, etc, so gravity and special relativity is used.

Rockets work fine in atmosphere. They simply do not work without it.
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No, atmospheric pressure is rejected as the reason things fall downwards, because that is bollocks with zero evidence for it.

In large vacuum chambers things still fall. We have been through this.
 
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DaveH said:
Not sure if you saw this post before.

"Water is always level, it does not conform to the shape of a globe" - Turns out it does:
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Do you have an explanation for that?
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Of course. It's garbage.
DaveH said:
No, atmospheric pressure is rejected as the reason things fall downwards, because that is bollocks with zero evidence for it.
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The evidence is there but you won't see it because it goes against your ideals and I understand that.
DaveH said:
In large vacuum chambers things still fall. We have been through this.
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Of course things still fall in low pressure. Why wouldn't they?
There's no such thing as a vacuum so it's pointless using that for things falling.

extreme low pressure is all you'll get and it follows the same pattern of dense mass displacement. The only difference is in the resistance to it below and the push from above and around it, being much less pressure.
Kevj said:
Do you believe in atoms?
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Not in the way we're told, no.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Of course. It's garbage.


The evidence is there but you won't see it because it goes against your ideals and I understand that.

Of course things still fall in low pressure. Why wouldn't they?
There's no such thing as a vacuum so it's pointless using that for things falling.

extreme low pressure is all you'll get and it follows the same pattern of dense mass displacement. The only difference is in the resistance to it below and the push from above and around it, being much less pressure.

Not in the way we're told, no.
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There's no such thing as a vacuum? f***ing hell
 
fyl2u said:
Someone copy and paste this link so that cellboy can see this bunch of people discovering that water isn't flat...


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Nice find. He has talked about water being perfectly flat, conforming to it's container but also said about experiments with perfectly level telescopes. And that is what they do to find the circumference of the earth.

What I find interesting is it matches the ancient greek experiment for the measurement but also I posted how I can use the angle to Polaris as you move south to also give a similar figure. Guess what, different observations and different maths, all came up with the same figure.

This thread has talked about scientific method a few times, but one of the things I don't think was mentioned was using different experiments to independently come up with the same results as a proof. There are three things all converging on the same thing there and all things ordinary people can do. That is before you get into the really sophisticated stuff.
 
monkeytassle said:
There's no such thing as a vacuum? f***ing hell
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You seem surprised. Why?
Are you telling me you know of one?

Your friends will tell you there's no vacuum. They will tell you very low pressure is the best we can do.
Want to know why?
A vacuum would be the absence of everything. It means nothing could exist. Nothing.
This means there can never be a vacuum.

This is why the space they sell us and tell us, is utter gunk.
DaveH said:
Garbage why?

Did they cheat in their experiment? Were the results faked? Or were the conclusions wrong?
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Yep.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
You seem surprised. Why?
Are you telling me you know of one?

Your friends will tell you there's no vacuum. They will tell you very low pressure is the best we can do.
Want to know why?
A vacuum would be the absence of everything. It means nothing could exist. Nothing.
This means there can never be a vacuum.

This is why the space they sell us and tell us, is utter gunk.

Yep.
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What. They cheated? Take the boat experiment, how? What did they do wrong and why?
 
DaveH said:
What. They cheated? Take the boat experiment, how? What did they do wrong and why?
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I don't really need to go into that.
But let's use your argument about your horizon. Can you remember what you said about it?
I'll remind you.
You said the curve of the Earth was where your vision hit and it became your horizon. The land or the water. Remember?

So really you shouldn't be going along with this because it kills that thought off immediately.

I can easily bring up stuff that goes against that silly pretence of an experiment but what I bring up will also be cast off as a silly experiment.
See how it works?
 
Nukehasslefan said:
You seem surprised. Why?
Are you telling me you know of one?

Your friends will tell you there's no vacuum. They will tell you very low pressure is the best we can do.
Want to know why?
A vacuum would be the absence of everything. It means nothing could exist. Nothing.
This means there can never be a vacuum.

This is why the space they sell us and tell us, is utter gunk.

Yep.
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Not wasting anymore time here. You go your own way. I hope you don't pass on this utter drivel to any progeny
 
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