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NUFC/Sportwashing

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Seriously the bastards would have welcomed Hitler. Bowing down shouting Mein Fuhrer.

This disgusting individual is our era's Hitler. They are just as bad. Should be f***ing ashamed of themselves.
 
Binxy said:
For someone who's supposedly against the Saudis owning your club you certainly are doing your best to defend them with your whataboutery.
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I'm not defending them at all. I've called them out as bastards multiple times. I'm just calling out the hypocritical nature of this assault on Newcastle fans.
 
mag in peace said:
It's his mother isn't it? His money was his inheritance - of course they are f***ing linked :lol: when she pops it, who benefits ?

No connection.

Because you think a reporter for a big firm such as Sky would openly condone the actions of a tyrant publically as opposed to actually viewing the tweet for what it was 🤣
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The money KLD used to buy the club was from the trust fund set up by his father. You are clutching at straws here.
 
Black Cat Gypsy said:
Next he'll be calling us hypocrites if you watch Seinfeld or VEEP because Julia Louis-Dreyfus 2nd cousins wife sold 45% of a business to the UAE.
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Ok let's clarify, where did KLD's money come from?

Where has his mother just made a vast sum of money from a working partnership with.

I wasn't saying Sunderland had a working relationship with Abu Dhabi, I was using it as a point that not everyone that deals with these people are instantly massive bastards. Unless you are saying KLD's mum and by proxy he is.
 
mag in peace said:
Quick research tells me the Dreyfuss family recently sold a large part of one of their business to the Abu Dhabi investment fund. Amnesty International also publish every human rights breach that currently take place in said country.

Do you hate your own owners and if so, how do you show this?
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Just what this thread needs.

A mag trying to minimise the ownership of their club by deflecting the conversation using a bit of "whataboutery"...

Let's see how far he gets with the false equivalence of "your owners sold something to someone not nice" and "my fan base begged to be taken over and wholly owned by despots and now its happened we're so grateful we're happily doing the sportswashing for them"?

As you're doing the research can you let me know when our owners bombed another country back to the stone age and killed 130,000 people with bombs and malnutrition because they were the "wrong kind of Muslim"?

Now if you came back with some evidence that WOULDN'T be a false equivalence.
 
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Binxy said:
As soon as you utter the words "well what about" you're defending them.

You've been well and truly sportswashed.
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No, because it was relevant. I was addressing the point that not everyone who deals or works with these people are bastards and evil. Unless of course you are suggesting your owners mother is?
 
mag in peace said:
Ok let's clarify, where did KLD's money come from?

Where has his mother just made a vast sum of money from a working partnership with.

I wasn't saying Sunderland had a working relationship with Abu Dhabi, I was using it as a point that not everyone that deals with these people are instantly massive bastards. Unless you are saying KLD's mum and by proxy he is.
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No matter how bad any of these people are, the Saudis are much worse.

And that's a fact you can't deny.
 
mag in peace said:
Ok let's clarify, where did KLD's money come from?

Where has his mother just made a vast sum of money from a working partnership with.

I wasn't saying Sunderland had a working relationship with Abu Dhabi, I was using it as a point that not everyone that deals with these people are instantly massive bastards. Unless you are saying KLD's mum and by proxy he is.
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Did KSA pay KLD or anyone in his family to use a major or prestigious international sport to improve its reputation, through hosting a sporting event, the purchase or sponsorship of sporting teams, or by participation in the sport itself?

If not your carefully constructed case is invalid
 
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ilovehorswill said:
Did KSA pay KLD or anyone in his family to use a using a major or prestigious international sport to improve its reputation, through hosting a sporting event, the purchase or sponsorship of sporting teams, or by participation in the sport itself?
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That's not the point I was addressing. Im not attempting to say KLD is sportswashing for Abu Dhabi FFS I'm addressing the point someone made earlier that anyone who deals with these people are evil bastards.
 
Black Cat Gypsy said:
I don't think anyone is under assumption that the Louis-Dreyfus family are saints. The business world is murky to say the least. Margarita Louis-Dreyfus sold 45% not Kryil. Kyril Louis-Dreyfus owns Sunderland AFC. Abu Dhabi has no connection with Sunderland AFC or our owner.

You are stay to show your true colours.
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And KLD isn't even on the board of LDC commodities as far as I know, selling a non controlling stake to do with food supply
The nasty bastards eh 🙄
 
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