NUFC/Sportwashing

[Botchie]

He was talking about the owners he has met. He can't talk about those he hasn't. It's worth noting that whilst Hardy is putting the boot in here, he happily accepted an all-inclusive paid trip to Saudi to watch the boxing.

He didn't say that originally mind. He only come out it with after saying why he'd deleted the tweet.

 

[Ohnonotagain]

Do you believe Anmesty International? Plenty of documentation from them.

No.

 

[mag in peace]

What about the boxing eh?

My point about banning him and the likes of Bird & Caulkin isn’t about that one tweet in isolation.

Their whole attitude towards this has been as bad as your support in campaigning for and welcoming the Saudi’s with open arms.

They have been at best complicit in the Sportswashing happening and at worse completely negligent in their roles as journalists.

They can backtrack all they want, but as with the north east MPs who also wanted this, there is now way back for them now.

Wait until your new owners commit their next atrocity. Although not responsible by fawning over them Downie etc have effectively aided the the Saudi state in it’s attempts to clean their image by owning an English club without a word of concern raised.

There are literally thousands of journos and pundits that spoke about the need for the takeover to go through - Carra and Neville for example.

They manage to seperate the club and the atrocities that are committed in Saudi Arabia. With the amount of anger and hatred Neville has aimed at the Tories, do you genuinely believe he's ok with this? Of course he isn't. Nobody is. When saying the new owners were 'generally nice' Downie was talking about the ones he's met and the fact Bruce hasn't gone yet. He's not saying the fella lopping off people's heads is a cracking laugh is he.

And if the Saudi state is running NUFC, I wonder what the PL will do ?

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Expulsion from the premier League. They made that clear when it was discussed during the CAT hearing. Ultimately, they have the power to remove any club.

 

[w73]

"Invented"? Why on earth would you presume that, and why on earth would I invent that? A strange statement.

Because you are on here so much you don't have time to advise people. Both of my comments have been sarcastic remarks by the way. I've been on here too much today so I'll pick up this and the match-day thread after the tomorrow. Looking forward to watching a couple of lads I haven't seen before.

 

[Guinness Guzzler]

And if the Saudi state is running NUFC, I wonder what the PL will do ?

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It's such blatant bullshit like. How the fuck can the Saudi state not have a decision making role when 80% of the club is owned by the sovereign investment fund, with the crown prince and loads of the other key members of his government on the board? If they spend anything over and above what the club makes, any investment whatsoever, it would have to have been signed off by the board of PIF, namely the Crown prince. Its laughable that they're even trying to pretend a) that there's separation in the first place and b) that they'll ever use any of these "powers" to address it. Must think people are f***ing stupid

 

[The Great MES]

Not sure if this has been posted, Jesus Christ man

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The thick c.unts don't realise that Sir Bobby will be turning in his grave at the to thought of his club selling their soul to a murderous regime.

 

[riffraff]

She doesn't represent the whole Labour Party I assume?
All NUFC fans are being assumed to support this and all being labelled as vermin.

Waddya expect on here ferchrissake? We’re sad Mackem bastards remember? Every last one of us.

Any Newcastle player heard saying that gay people should be locked up - would be banned for 6+ games .
yet the premier league have sold Newcastle to the person responsible for implementing and enforcing the jailing of gay people - the assassination of a journalist - and the denial of basic human rights to women
we have to keep spreading the word of just what the Saudis and Newcastle stand for .

You’ve a good point there. Hopefully a pL player will have the stones to do a tweet asking what the PL and FAs reaction will be if he tweets summet along those lines.

 

[offmenut]

But the point remains, if he is so anti Saudi Arabia, why is he encouraging the sportswashing by attending an event? Is it ok because he's paid for it? Surely he's benefitting from the exact same blood money? He's just another in a long line of hypocrites.

When Chelsea and City were challenged previously the bloke tweeted 'it doesn't matter where the money has come from' - why's he happy to turn a blind eye then?

It's not an honest question, it's a dig at me and the answer has already been given multiple times on a thread that's probably going to reach 1000 pages of the exact same back and forth bullshit.

Ah, double standards. Or perhaps he thinks this is one step too far. Maybe he has changed his opinion.
Maybe he needed the money and it was his job. I've not read his article on the boxing, was he anti or pro Saudi? I'm an environmentalist and an air traffic controller who likes to go on holiday a lot. That's quite hypocritical but i do what I can.
Maybe he has learnt more about sportswashing and MSB recently. Oe he thought the Qataris weren't too bad. You have literally the worst regime in the world in charge of your club. I think I'd rather have Kim Jong il. Anywat, Who knows?
It shouldn't matter. What should matter is what is happening to your once proud Club.

Just because bad money came in from Qatar, this shouldn't mean that we should let even worse money come in from your murderous dictator. That's ludicrous.

 

[mag in peace]

Somebody earlier mentioned trying to do a multi club fund raise for the Yemeni people in response to this. I personally think that's a cracking idea, my apologies I have been tagged and received a lot of alerts I can't remember who it was.

I genuinely look forward to seeing it come to fruition and I'd happily donate.

 

[Ohnonotagain]

There are literally thousands of journos and pundits that spoke about the need for the takeover to go through - Carra and Neville for example.

They manage to seperate the club and the atrocities that are committed in Saudi Arabia. With the amount of anger and hatred Neville has aimed at the Tories, do you genuinely believe he's ok with this? Of course he isn't. Nobody is. When saying the new owners were 'generally nice' Downie was talking about the ones he's met and the fact Bruce hasn't gone yet. He's not saying the fella lopping off people's heads is a cracking laugh is he.

Expulsion from the premier League. They made that clear when it was discussed during the CAT hearing. Ultimately, they have the power to remove any club.

As if that's going to happen....

 

[Red]

Not sure if this has been posted, Jesus Christ man

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Fuckin hell man.

Keep it classy eh.

 

[mag in peace]

Ah, double standards. Or perhaps he thinks this is one step too far. Maybe he has changed his opinion.
Or he has learnt more about sportswashing and MSB recently. Oe he thought the Qataris weren't too bad. You have literallt the worst regime in the world on charge of your club. I think I'd rather have Kim Jong il. Who knows?
It shouldn't matter. What should matter is what is happening to your once proud Club.

Just because bad money came in from Qatar, this shouldn't mean that we should let even worse money come in from your murderous dictator. That's ludicrous.

But it's hypocritical to get on your high horse over an innocent (granted poorly written) tweet and have a go at another journo when if anything, he's benefitted more from the Saudis personally - right?
I see you have liked it @Guinness Guzzler was it you mate? If so, please hoy the details my way and I will happily share them amongst fellow mags.

 

[1879]

There are literally thousands of journos and pundits that spoke about the need for the takeover to go through - Carra and Neville for example.

They manage to seperate the club and the atrocities that are committed in Saudi Arabia. With the amount of anger and hatred Neville has aimed at the Tories, do you genuinely believe he's ok with this? Of course he isn't. Nobody is. When saying the new owners were 'generally nice' Downie was talking about the ones he's met and the fact Bruce hasn't gone yet. He's not saying the fella lopping off people's heads is a cracking laugh is he.

Did you read my post? I’m not on about that one Tweet in isolation.

Clearly Downie is as rattled as you are anyway with the shitstorm surrounding this as now he’s deleted the Tweet.

Best of all, you lot wanted this with all of the campaigning, yet again embarrassed yourself’s nationally with the Saudi flag waving and tea towel wearing and are highly likely to still have Bruce in charge on Sunday

If he is still in charge in a couple of weeks what will you all be saying then?

 

[mag in peace]

Did you read my post? I’m not on about that one.

Clearly Downie is as rattled as you are anyway with the shitstorm surrounding this now as he’s deleted the Tweet.

Best of all this is, you lot wanted this with all of the campaigning, yet again embarrassed yourself’s nationally with the Saudi flag waving and tea towel wearing and are highly likely to still have Bruce in charge on Sunday

If he is still in charge in a couple of weeks what will you all be saying then?

I'd want Bruce sacked whoever's in charge. That won't change. If he's still in place in a few weeks you can sure as shit imagine people will be vocal about it.

There's a majority of impatient fans already fuming he's not gone already FFS

 

[1879]

I'd want Bruce sacked whoever's in charge. That won't change. If he's still in place in a few weeks you can sure as shit imagine people will be vocal about it.

There's a majority of impatient fans already fuming he's not gone already FFS

Will you protest against your owner if he is still the manager?

 

[mag in peace]

Will you protest against your owner if he is still the manager?

It would 100% happen. The trust () ran a poll and something like 98% want him gone. There would deff be a vocal element if he's still there.

I do think, they may give him his 1000th game though.

 

[Donnybrook]

Will you protest against your owner if he is still the manager?

T Towels in the tyne

 

[ontap]

I don't play on twitter. I am also 100% certain that you, and those on here, do not genuinely believe that 90+% of NUFC fans support this. Twitter, FB, and pissed idiots outside the ground are not the 45k regulars attendee at SJP.

Really ? Every Mag I have spoken to is 100% behind it and supporters of other clubs all see it the same, there ate no dissenting voices , the mags couldn’t give 2 shits about anything other than this mob bankrolling their PL outfit.

 

[Guinness Guzzler]

But it's hypocritical to get on your high horse over an innocent (granted poorly written) tweet and have a go at another journo when if anything, he's benefitted more from the Saudis personally - right?
I see you have liked it @Guinness Guzzler was it you mate? If so, please hoy the details my way and I will happily share them amongst fellow mags.

Someone else has mentioned doing something around Khashoggi. I just suggested that more good would probably come from raising money for the crisis in Yemen. Genuinely believe a lot of mags would donate, and if loads of fans from all over donated to it not only would it show the Saudis that their morals aren't shared by football fans, it would also do a lot of good for people who desperately need help.

Alas, I'm not sure I fancy starting it. Whoever starts it would likely get a fair bit of abuse, if not from sportswashed mags then probably from Saudi troll farms. Also aware of how it will look if its a Sunderland fan that starts it. I wouldn't want it to be seen as some kind of a move, driven by jealousy, to make Newcastle fans look bad. Like I say, that shouldn't be an aim, they should feel they can join in and show that they'll keep supporting their club but don't agree with the regime any more than the rest of us. Personally I think it would be better if fans groups started it so there wasnt an individual as such for them to target. Get the FSA involved, get the message out through all the various supporters groups and try to make some good come of it

 

[riffraff]

I don't play on twitter. I am also 100% certain that you, and those on here, do not genuinely believe that 90+% of NUFC fans support this. Twitter, FB, and pissed idiots outside the ground are not the 45k regulars attendee at SJP.

Ok then. What’s your guess % wise?