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Be nice for a block on new members for a few weeks. Enough gravy stained arseholes already on this thread never mind the rest crawling out of the woodwork now they’ve ‘got their club back’.
 

Even prouder to be a Sunderland fan today. I love what we are, what we're doing and how we're doing it. I know some will disagree, but I really don't know if I can say with any certainty that I would rather be back in the PL. The Championship, definitely, of course, but beyond that, unless something changes in the whole aura that surrounds the PL, you can keep it.
I think NUFC are entering their own “Paolo Di Canio” moment of being put in a moral dilemma.

Being NUFC they’re doing it in a much larger and more melodramatic way but it should be an interesting watch 🍿
 
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Many here are “joking” about the death of a journalist in Turkey…allegedly committed on the orders of a foreign government…
I assume, therefore that American ownership of sports will now be questioned as the American military allegedly killed 11 civilians in Kabul recently

Ive seen some barrel scraping in my time, but you’re on the verge of taking a whole packet of biscuits here mind.
 
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Many here are “joking” about the death of a journalist in Turkey…allegedly committed on the orders of a foreign government…
I assume, therefore that American ownership of sports will now be questioned as the American military allegedly killed 11 civilians in Kabul recently
Another mag who despite the overwhelming evidence and proof that his new owners are barbaric murderous horrific humans tries to defend them. Absolutely shameful behaviour thank fuck im not you
 
Here's a thought... I've just looked at Newcastle's fixtures between now and the next transfer window... they're playing pretty much all of the top teams, with maybe two or three games where you'd say they have a strong chance of getting a result. They could be stranded at the bottom of the PL, struggle to recruit players to come to relegation candidates and the Saudis end up with a £300M Championship team. Okay, they'll probably come straight back up, but, for a year it might be hilarious.
 
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Many here are “joking” about the death of a journalist in Turkey…allegedly committed on the orders of a foreign government…
I assume, therefore that American ownership of sports will now be questioned as the American military allegedly killed 11 civilians in Kabul recently

Are you that thick?

Surely we needn’t point out that the American Federal Government does not own any sports clubs. It’s not like Stan Kroenke is able to order a drone strike.

It’s not some random rich Saudi Citizen. It’s the sovereign wealth fund of the state.

Jesus wept.
 
To be fair, Di Canio didn’t have a dissident journalist kidnapped, murdered, and chopped up with a bone saw.

That you know about he didn’t!

😂😂😂

He hates Tommy k cos it reminds him of the blood. Perhaps. Allegedly.
 
You joined the forum in 2013 pretending to be a Mackem. Dissapeared straight away until 2017 and then disappeared again but now you're back on a rival messageboard 'gloating' :lol:

Reet, rivalry baiting aside and this is my 'meltdown' on the takeover :lol: I do agree with you about the modern game and how money has fucked it up! Aye teams in the 70's/80's dominated (well Liverpool basically) but there was still plenty room at the top for other teams to get excited about it and the prize money wasn't as big a thing as is now. Now it's the same big 4 finishing at least top 6 along with Spurs/Arsenal. Though those 2 teams are going through a blip in the last 2 seasons allowing other teams into the not so big money Europa League.

Some may say Leicester got into the Champions League but that was a one off. They are the only club to break into the big money Champions League since 2005! Yet since then their squad value/wages/debt have gone up ( ) but the revenue has peaked as they're not getting Champions League income. I can't see that being good for them long term as they don't look as good a team this year as they have in previous seasons and if they go outta Europa League in group stage it will lose them more revenue millions. Leicester's wages at £157m were higher than their revenue trying to compete with the big boys, though they lost a bit due to COVID. Everton look to be the same with a lot of revenue going on wages looking at the image below and I'm sure they lost big in 2020.

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I can't see how the Mags will compete but actually stay up there (unless they fiddle FFP) as it's not just the £200 or whatever million being invested (that isn't all on players either), it's wages that are a huge burden every season. You just have to look at the wage bill of the big 6 as it's more than the revenue of the other clubs but that's because their revenue dwarfs other clubs. Aye Leicester got up there and won it but they haven't closed the huge revenue gap between the big 6 and the rest of the league in the time since. They're not even that far ahead of other teams and less than an Almiron (minus wages) to some and a Joelinton to other clubs as it's hard to stay up there financially in the modern football global era.

If the Mags find decent enough players, will they hold onto them? Even Leicester have sold some of the best players on to the bigger clubs rather than keep them and they've just reinvested in players but very few teams sustain that, hence cycles of good/bad seasons. Obviously the big clubs can shift on a few dud players for big fees and cover the losses but the non big 6 can't keep doing that season after season.

I think PIF may well bring in a few 'decent' players but long term just end up scouting/developing players and selling for a profit rather than keeping them. I doubt they are gonna do what Hall did in the 90's and hoy big fees and wages at decent players to come straight in. Some of the Mags will be in for a big shock when they realise having £320bn doesn't mean they're they big spenders and it will be a joy to watch! :lol::lol:
A good well researched rant. However in my defence, you all knew I was a Toon fan from the off. I just did loads of responses under the "banter" stuff. Your fans love to give it but can't take it back. Hence my comments tonight. I have family and friends that are sunderland supporters and believe me they get the grief also. Trust me, your team will be promoted and I'm still convinced Newcastle could still be relegated.
 
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Many here are “joking” about the death of a journalist in Turkey…allegedly committed on the orders of a foreign government…
I assume, therefore that American ownership of sports will now be questioned as the American military allegedly killed 11 civilians in Kabul recently

Youre basically a terrorist apologist now. Let that sink in.
 
Are you that thick?

Surely we needn’t point out that the American Federal Government does not own any sports clubs. It’s not like Stan Kroenke is able to order a drone strike.

It’s not some random rich Saudi Citizen. It’s the sovereign wealth fund of the state.

Jesus wept.

You just need to type “Jamal Kharshoggi” in to the Twitter search engine, and read the replies to various articles/tweets from the “Geordie nation”.

Grim stuff, but a sad indictment of football and wider society.
 
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