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johnnyat87 said:
Thoroughly enjoyed that, thanks
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I have shared similar articles since 2020...you might be the first to have read!

If you know any Saudi's then you know the benefits they get are unsustainable. Another one for you -
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I have maintained all along that it is hard to reduce benefits in it's country whilst paying 500k a week to a mercenary.

None of this fits the mags narrative of being the wealthiest team in the world.
 
Frankel said:
I appreciate Mike Ashley is a horrible bloke. The alleged practice ongoing at Sports Direct is awful.

However to describe them deserving to ‘be free’ of him isn’t right. He kept the club afloat and has been open that the club needed to be self sustainable which it is. He’s done a good, if unambitious job whilst there.

I heard Keith Downie describing the mags as ‘some of the most passionate fans’. It’s absolute bollocks. All football fans are passionate. We all believe we are entitled to do well. This notion that they’ve some how suffered is laughable. If we were to do a direct comparison between us and them there’d only be one winner in the shitty stick competition.
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Completely agree , he would be considered a welcome owner at around 80 of the 92 clubs in the uk and we certainly would,nt be in league one if he was owner here.

That said though, they see him as satan and he hates them for moaning all the time. Perhaps I should have said they deserve to be free from each other after 14 years as the relationship has run its course. Somewhere along the lines be it, the EPL, ashley or even thr nufc fans should have said we dont want a deal with a country like that.
 
jimb said:
For me it's worrying for the future of the Premier League that it's ready go down this route to allow essentially a state take over of uk club, from a country such as this.

Newcastle fans & ashley wont mind no doubt, they probably did deserve to be free of him but somewhere along the line someone should have said we should have no dealings with them.
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If it goes through it makes you wonder if the government have had a word with the premier league to help nod it through

The government have happily taken money from Saudis for decades. If they buy them and invest heavily in the region that'll save the government having to do it
 
jlaws said:
I have shared similar articles since 2020...you might be the first to have read!

If you know any Saudi's then you know the benefits they get are unsustainable. Another one for you -
You must be logged on to see external links


I have maintained all along that it is hard to reduce benefits in it's country whilst paying 500k a week to a mercenary.

None of this fits the mags narrative of being the wealthiest team in the world.
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I so so hope they get within a whisker of success, about to qualify for CL, lose a cup final, etc. So close they can taste the success..... the hope and belief is unbearable...... then the Saudi's officially go bankrupt and the Mags plunge into administration and are relegated off the back of the subsequent points deduction. We can but dream.
 
Eric gates hair said:
You can’t just buy your way to the top now. I mean if you look at us , the Dreyfus family business turn over is 120billion . Sartoris in law s are mega rich also. People are forgetting here our owners are also minted . Maybe not that level but still very very rich. It’ll take years and years to get to the top.
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FOSUN who own Wolves are absolutely minted but Wolves foreground making a profit and being sustainable over splurging their way to success.
 
johnnyat87 said:
I so so hope they get within a whisker of success, about to qualify for CL, lose a cup final, etc. So close they can taste the success..... the hope and belief is unbearable...... then the Saudi's officially go bankrupt and the Mags plunge into administration and are relegated off the back of the subsequent points deduction. We can but dream.
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Or lose the play off final next season …..
 
FulwellViaLeeds said:
And yet, they're only buying 80% of the club. Which does beg the question - why?

Genuine question - do you think the consortium have acted sensibly so far? I'd be hoping for a spending spree, because I wouldn't have much faith in the acumen of those involved so far.
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No, they've fudged things from the off. All of these issues could and should have been foreseen from the off. If the Saudis didn't think (or were advised) that stealing broadcast rights from the people they were wanting to do business with, would be a problem, they're staggeringly arrogant/ignorant.

Now, if they can bring in the right people, to make footballing decisions for them, I've far more confidence.
 
The Fish said:
No, they've fudged things from the off. All of these issues could and should have been foreseen from the off. If the Saudis didn't think (or were advised) that stealing broadcast rights from the people they were wanting to do business with, would be a problem, they're staggeringly arrogant/ignorant.

Now, if they can bring in the right people, to make footballing decisions for them, I've far more confidence.
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It's bizzare looking at it now, they must have some brass neck on them to think they can steal from someone then offer to do business with them at the same time
 
TartanMackem said:
Kashoggi is obviously the headline case, but far more grisly is the fact that the club has been bought to facilitate the murder of people in future. There are people in Saudi Arabia, as we speak, who are sitting on death sentences for having protested against the government and the Al Saud monarchy. Most of them are also minority shias. One young man was executed earlier this year for "crimes" committed when he was a teenager. The "crimes" being anti-government protest.

In this day and age, it would be near impossible to find a club owner who doesn't have dubious morals. It's not really possible to accumulate the kind of wealth needed, without being fairly shady. But for the most part, these people are guilty of no more than being capitalists in a society that tells itself that capitalism is the greatest thing to have happened to humanity.

Mike Ashley is a shitty person, but he is only guilty of taking advantage of the society that we have built, and made himself wealthy while others struggle. MBS is an outright killer. He will continue to kill in order to preserve his rule and the rule of the Al Sauds. Newcastle United are now a tool in those killings.

Their fans are talking about getting their club back, but eventually the smarter ones will realise that the opposite is true. They've lost their club.
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Heard a Mag on 5Live this morning. When asked about this he said "government sells weapons to the saudis...and anyway we're a terrific bunch of fans..I mean...we've got a food bank and done loads for charity"
 
jlaws said:
I have shared similar articles since 2020...you might be the first to have read!

If you know any Saudi's then you know the benefits they get are unsustainable. Another one for you -
You must be logged on to see external links


I have maintained all along that it is hard to reduce benefits in it's country whilst paying 500k a week to a mercenary.

None of this fits the mags narrative of being the wealthiest team in the world.
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I've said all along. Oil prices may be high at present but our country and others are stopping production of petrol-fueled motors within the decade. That, along with the drawbridge long sice being hoisted in football will likely prevent the 50-thoosand screaming Jawdees receiving/nay demanding ludicrous spending
 
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TartanMackem said:
Kashoggi is obviously the headline case, but far more grisly is the fact that the club has been bought to facilitate the murder of people in future. There are people in Saudi Arabia, as we speak, who are sitting on death sentences for having protested against the government and the Al Saud monarchy. Most of them are also minority shias. One young man was executed earlier this year for "crimes" committed when he was a teenager. The "crimes" being anti-government protest.

In this day and age, it would be near impossible to find a club owner who doesn't have dubious morals. It's not really possible to accumulate the kind of wealth needed, without being fairly shady. But for the most part, these people are guilty of no more than being capitalists in a society that tells itself that capitalism is the greatest thing to have happened to humanity.

Mike Ashley is a shitty person, but he is only guilty of taking advantage of the society that we have built, and made himself wealthy while others struggle. MBS is an outright killer. He will continue to kill in order to preserve his rule and the rule of the Al Sauds. Newcastle United are now a tool in those killings.

Their fans are talking about getting their club back, but eventually the smarter ones will realise that the opposite is true. They've lost their club.
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seems like mags and Saudis are a good fit
 
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