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0321safc said:
You seem to have a load of defenders that are mediocre, I couldn’t tell you out of Lascelles, Schar, Fernandez and Clark are the best 2, as they always seem to rotate. A backup striker would be key yeah, but it’s a difficult task to go into. You always have the issue of mediocre players on long term deals, i think even paying their contracts out counts towards FFP regulations, so you are curtailed in that respect.
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They're all shite.
 
The Fish said:
100% Yes we may have more money to throw around, but everyone knows that, so everyone will demand more. Not just clubs, but players and agents too.

There isn't a Man City/Chelsea splurge incoming, it'll have to take time and sensible long term planning.
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I think that is where things will potentially fall down tbh. Your lot don't really do that sort of thing. It's a bug that SAFC fans have caught over the last few years too.
 
safctommie said:
Haven’t they paid £1b to sort out the tv problem.If so,I would say they’re in it for the long term.
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They paid 1bn so Saudi's can watch the Asian Cup and the WC legitimately on BeIN! This is a by-product.
 
0321safc said:
You seem to have a load of defenders that are mediocre, I couldn’t tell you out of Lascelles, Schar, Fernandez and Clark are the best 2, as they always seem to rotate. A backup striker would be key yeah, but it’s a difficult task to go into. You always have the issue of mediocre players on long term deals, i think even paying their contracts out counts towards FFP regulations, so you are curtailed in that respect.
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FFP is based on losses, and any termination payments go through wages. The can't exceed £15m losses over a 3 year period, but that can be increased to £105m if the owner injects equity or a gift (loans don't count). Also, unless the wage bill is under £60m, you can only increase that by £4m per season, plus any increases in commercial income and transfer trading profits. The second part might constrain paying players off.
 
The Fish said:
Not really, they'd have to spend way less to improve us from 12th to 9th, then they would to get Man Utd from 3rd to 1st. It'd cost less to tart up St James' than it would Old Trafford. There's little room to grow Man Utd's commercial revenue, when we've been soo poorly run on that front, there's plenty of room to grow.
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Does the fact that the likes of PSG could not give a fuck that the are about to lose Mbappe for nothing , show you that earning a few quid is not their primary motive . They are trying to promote their country not double their money .
 
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palm 1 said:
Does the fact that the likes of PSG could not give a fuck that the are about to lose Mbappe for nothing , show you that earning a few quid is not their primary motive . They are trying to promote their country not turn 1billion into 2.
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It's not their primary, no. But it is a motive.

So why do you think they're buying Newcastle, instead of Manchester United?
 
SaintJude said:
I wonder how the British government are going to react to the news a bunch of terrorist sympathisers and murderers are about to come aboard. Personally don’t think it’ll go through as human rights has been at the forefront of everyone’s minds in the last 18 months. Can see sponsors pulling out soon like
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The British government and the PL, much like the mags couldn’t care less. Makes a bit of a mockery of ”taking the knee”
 
palm 1 said:
Does the fact that the likes of PSG could not give a fuck that the are about to lose Mbappe for nothing , show you that earning a few quid is not their primary motive . They are trying to promote their country not double their money .
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Precisely this. It’s not about money or even results on the pitch for the House of Saud. It’s about “sportswashing” their awful human rights abuses/terrorist funding links.
 
The thing is, those dafties who went to London to sing a few songs will think they've changed something when it was always about the Qataris receiving a back hander from the Saudis.

They'll be marching on Westminster every time a throw in is awarded against them now
 
jimb said:
For me it's worrying for the future of the Premier League that it's ready go down this route to allow essentially a state take over of uk club, from a country such as this.

Newcastle fans & ashley wont mind no doubt, they probably did deserve to be free of him but somewhere along the line someone should have said we should have no dealings with them.
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I appreciate Mike Ashley is a horrible bloke. The alleged practice ongoing at Sports Direct is awful.

However to describe them deserving to ‘be free’ of him isn’t right. He kept the club afloat and has been open that the club needed to be self sustainable which it is. He’s done a good, if unambitious job whilst there.

I heard Keith Downie describing the mags as ‘some of the most passionate fans’. It’s absolute bollocks. All football fans are passionate. We all believe we are entitled to do well. This notion that they’ve some how suffered is laughable. If we were to do a direct comparison between us and them there’d only be one winner in the shitty stick competition.
 
Sweeper said:
Sad day for football to be honest. This is the guy who personally ordered the kidnap, murder and dismemberment of Jamal Khashoggi. If he can pass a “fit and proper” test, then it lays bare what the Premier League has become.

I see Amnesty International have written to the Premier League to object. No doubt they’ll be ignored.
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Kashoggi is obviously the headline case, but far more grisly is the fact that the club has been bought to facilitate the murder of people in future. There are people in Saudi Arabia, as we speak, who are sitting on death sentences for having protested against the government and the Al Saud monarchy. Most of them are also minority shias. One young man was executed earlier this year for "crimes" committed when he was a teenager. The "crimes" being anti-government protest.

In this day and age, it would be near impossible to find a club owner who doesn't have dubious morals. It's not really possible to accumulate the kind of wealth needed, without being fairly shady. But for the most part, these people are guilty of no more than being capitalists in a society that tells itself that capitalism is the greatest thing to have happened to humanity.

Mike Ashley is a shitty person, but he is only guilty of taking advantage of the society that we have built, and made himself wealthy while others struggle. MBS is an outright killer. He will continue to kill in order to preserve his rule and the rule of the Al Sauds. Newcastle United are now a tool in those killings.

Their fans are talking about getting their club back, but eventually the smarter ones will realise that the opposite is true. They've lost their club.
 
SaintJude said:
I wonder how the British government are going to react to the news a bunch of terrorist sympathisers and murderers are about to come aboard. Personally don’t think it’ll go through as human rights has been at the forefront of everyone’s minds in the last 18 months. Can see sponsors pulling out soon like
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The British government and the PL, much like the mags couldn’t care less. Makes a bit of a mockery of ”taking the knee”
Old Money said:
There's a shit storm brewing here butlot of

Well I'm one of the 10% who are insane.
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me anarl. We can both be nutters together.
 
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