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Put a flat earthier into space

Kevj said:
Shit. Of course! It’s ‘them’ spending vast sums of money to suppress the real truth from us for no apparent reason.
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Imagine how bastard rich the real puppet masters must be. Bezos and Musk who can get anything they want are basically on the poverty line in comparison.
 

0verlord44 said:
Ah you mean people who won’t let you have your own ‘musings’ on science and won’t let you brush off actual proof.
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There is no proof for a globe so I'm fine on that one. As for my musings, nobody's asked to follow them. That's up to each individual to use as their own "hmmmm" process....or not.
Either way it doesn't stop me carrying on.
0verlord44 said:
You would have a point but, in 111 pages, are you not surprised not one person has agreed with you?
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No I'm not surprised.
Why would anyone agree with me on something that's my thought process?
Why would they want to be digged at for alternate thoughts? I fully understand people who may want to think outside the box but not actually share it. I'm sure they can see what happens when going against a mainstream narrative.

Anyway I fully understand them.
Nobby said:
On this model the UK is on a curved bit, how come his bath water remains flat?
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Because the water is inside a container, meaning it sits in indentations around the gradient as well as at the bottom of one.
And the gradient is on a massive scale of elevation over massive distance not as in walking up a steep mountain.
The Snockerty Friddle said:
Go on then, prove it! Prove water is level. You cant. You'll show it's level-ish within tiny tolerances, but if you think just looking at the water in your bath tub constitutes proof then you're not even trying.

You may not have the conviction to claim your theory as factual, but you are more than willing to insist that the accepted science and knowledge of several thousand years is most definately nonsense.
That's the 'fact' you're claiming and what people will argue against. No-one can say you're wrong because you're just 'musing' but you're ok with telling us we're all wrong and blindly accepting what we're told when some at least might actually be just a bit more educated than you assume.
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Educated does not specifically mean truth.
It means you followed instructions and were marked down for the ability to regurgitate what you learned which gave you a grade that gave you a stance of being better educated or worse educated than others doing the same thing.

You could be studying truth's and fallacies.


The Snockerty Friddle said:
No-one is whining about you.
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ok.
The Snockerty Friddle said:
Some are laughing, some maybe a bit dismayed that beliefs such as yours exist, some think you're making the whole thing up for entertainment, but not one agrees with you.
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You mean no one backs me up on this forum.
First of all I wouldn't expect anyone to back me up on anything. Most people who view could see what that would lead to and why would they want to throw themselves into the snake pit?
The Snockerty Friddle said:
As for "There is zero proof." That's like saying your arse doesn't exist so long as you refuse to look at it.
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No. It's saying OZ's picture is on the wall and his voice reverberates around the room but the reality of this great and powerful may lie just behind a curtain.
The Snockerty Friddle said:
You ask people to show proof but it has to be according to your definition of proof, which appears to include a clause that excuses you from ever having to go and test it out or do anything that might prove the globe.
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Nope.
Just offer concrete proof. That's all I ask.
People can cite seeing a spinning ball in space but what does it prove other than to accept something they are not able to prove themselves.
I could argue asteroids not being real and you could show me one in the movie, armageddon and sy " look, what more proof do you need."
You have no clue whether you're looking at movie making or real life in this scenario other than to be told it's a movie or to be told it's a reality this time.

You accept what you're told and that's fair enough.........but it's not proof that you can offer and this is why I don't accept.
The Snockerty Friddle said:
Ther IS proof, but you cant put hours of sky watching and observation in a message board post, you're going to have to do that yourself.
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I have all the proof I need for Earth not being a spinning ball in a space vacuum and I'm more than happy with it.
I don't have proof of what Earth is in its entirety for reality but I'm working on that and may never find the reality......but, what I have found is what isn't reality, which is the nonsensical rotating oblate spheroid story and all the silly trimmings to cater for what we observe.

It's easy to make people follow a direction if that's what is taught as a narrative to follow.
DaveH said:
Ha’way man, this is getting really silly. I could make that shape right now out of a bit of kids plasticine, and pour water in it. The trough would fill up, the sides would be void of water. Look where the UK is, what would keep the water there? Put water on a gradient and it flows down.
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As above.
DaveH said:
If the atmosphere is stacked as you state then there would be a considerable difference between countries in the trough as to those in the north. This doesn’t happen.
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Yes it does happen.
You see many countries at higher elevation and many at low.
There's a reason for acclimatising.
DaveH said:
To hold water where they say the seas are (assuming when I walk down to the coast I’m really seeing the sea and not looking at a dessert seeing see because I’ve been schooled to think it is there), you would need some other force to stop it flowing into the trough.
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When you walk down the beach into the water you realise you see the water rising as you take a few steps. Why?
Because the water is in a container. It's in a concave container.#
Surely you didn't think you were walking into water sitting on a convex gradient and still expecting it to gain depth, did you?
DaveH said:
Some attractive force sticking the water to the sloping sides of the squeezer.
DaveH said:
A bit like a magnet but that worked on water rather than just on some types of metal.
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Nope, you're thinking of fictional gravity on your fictional globe.
babyimreadytoblow said:
Please stop.
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Are you ok?
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
There is no proof for a globe so I'm fine on that one. As for my musings, nobody's asked to follow them. That's up to each individual to use as their own "hmmmm" process....or not.
Either way it doesn't stop me carrying on.


No I'm not surprised.
Why would anyone agree with me on something that's my thought process?
Why would they want to be digged at for alternate thoughts? I fully understand people who may want to think outside the box but not actually share it. I'm sure they can see what happens when going against a mainstream narrative.

Anyway I fully understand them.

Because the water is inside a container, meaning it sits in indentations around the gradient as well as at the bottom of one.
And the gradient is on a massive scale of elevation over massive distance not as in walking up a steep mountain.

Educated does not specifically mean truth.
It means you followed instructions and were marked down for the ability to regurgitate what you learned which gave you a grade that gave you a stance of being better educated or worse educated than others doing the same thing.

You could be studying truth's and fallacies.



ok.

You mean no one backs me up on this forum.
First of all I wouldn't expect anyone to back me up on anything. Most people who view could see what that would lead to and why would they want to throw themselves into the snake pit?


No. It's saying OZ's picture is on the wall and his voice reverberates around the room but the reality of this great and powerful may lie just behind a curtain.


Nope.
Just offer concrete proof. That's all I ask.
People can cite seeing a spinning ball in space but what does it prove other than to accept something they are not able to prove themselves.
I could argue asteroids not being real and you could show me one in the movie, armageddon and sy " look, what more proof do you need."
You have no clue whether you're looking at movie making or real life in this scenario other than to be told it's a movie or to be told it's a reality this time.

You accept what you're told and that's fair enough.........but it's not proof that you can offer and this is why I don't accept.

I have all the proof I need for Earth not being a spinning ball in a space vacuum and I'm more than happy with it.
I don't have proof of what Earth is in its entirety for reality but I'm working on that and may never find the reality......but, what I have found is what isn't reality, which is the nonsensical rotating oblate spheroid story and all the silly trimmings to cater for what we observe.

It's easy to make people follow a direction if that's what is taught as a narrative to follow.


As above.


Yes it does happen.
You see many countries at higher elevation and many at low.
There's a reason for acclimatising.



When you walk down the beach into the water you realise you see the water rising as you take a few steps. Why?
Because the water is in a container. It's in a concave container.#
Surely you didn't think you were walking into water sitting on a convex gradient and still expecting it to gain depth, did you?



Nope, you're thinking of fictional gravity on your fictional globe.


Are you ok?
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So by the same arguments, the ocean can be a concave container on a global earth same as it can on a lemon squeezer earth.

I expect you will disagree for random reasons and a page of meaningless waffle.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Because the water is inside a container, meaning it sits in indentations around the gradient as well as at the bottom of one.
And the gradient is on a massive scale of elevation over massive distance not as in walking up a steep mountain.
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The gradient on a massive scale like the curvature of the earth, which the northern hemisphere matches the top part of your lemon squeezer earth.

So water can stay on that lemon squeezer and curve, it does not obey the shape of its container(your words),
but on a globe water can't curve.
North Atlantic magically holds the water on the lemon squeezer hemisphere but water doesn't obey physics on a globe.

Aye, makes sense now
 
DaveH said:
So by the same arguments, the ocean can be a concave container on a global earth same as it can on a lemon squeezer earth
I expect you will disagree for random reasons and a page of meaningless waffle.
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Yep on the top part of one as long as it wasn't spinning.
But that would leave most of that global Earth with none, so it's no feasible considering what we observe.


 
What A Waster said:
The gradient on a massive scale like the curvature of the earth, which the northern hemisphere matches the top part of your lemon squeezer earth.

So water can stay on that lemon squeezer and curve, it does not obey the shape of its container(your words),
but on a globe water can't curve.
North Atlantic magically holds the water on the lemon squeezer hemisphere but water doesn't obey physics on a globe.

Aye, makes sense now
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Maybe you overlooked the word, indentations.
Maybe you overlooked the words..... And the gradient is on a massive scale of elevation over massive distance not as in walking up a steep mountain.


But yet you believe the oceans can happily stay on a spinning globe, top down to bottom. Hmmmmm.
Nobby said:
But water can't hold on to a curve, and yet it has to in your model.
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No it doesn't. Read above.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Maybe you overlooked the word, indentations.
Maybe you overlooked the words..... And the gradient is on a massive scale of elevation over massive distance not as in walking up a steep mountain.


But yet you believe the oceans can happily stay on a spinning globe, top down to bottom. Hmmmmm.

No it doesn't. Read above.
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But you're only thinking of it as facing one way up. The gravity (or atmospheric pressure) which stops it floating away acts the same at the bottom, at the sides, at the front and back. All the water doesn't just drain away down to the south pole. Australians aren't actually upside down.

Where are these indentations that hold the water?
Harry Angstrom said:
I have to admit I’m impressed with @Nukehasslefan
It is either a descartes type philosophical experiment or an art project or wummery of the highest order. Whatever it is it’s quite impressive.
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I enjoy his posts, whether he believes it or not i don't know. It's good work though
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
Maybe you overlooked the word, indentations.
Maybe you overlooked the words..... And the gradient is on a massive scale of elevation over massive distance not as in walking up a steep mountain.
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But that's not what your model shows, it shows the seas and oceans as one large interconnected water system, just the same as on a globe. So if it works on your model it has to work on a globe
 
Can someone explain why water on a globe is impossible according to @Nukehasslefan 🤷‍♂️
I know it’s been talked about to death but cannot be arsed to trawl through 112 pages🥴😂
 
Nukehasslefan said:
There is no proof for a globe so I'm fine on that one. As for my musings, nobody's asked to follow them. That's up to each individual to use as their own "hmmmm" process....or not.
Either way it doesn't stop me carrying on.


No I'm not surprised.
Why would anyone agree with me on something that's my thought process?
Why would they want to be digged at for alternate thoughts? I fully understand people who may want to think outside the box but not actually share it. I'm sure they can see what happens when going against a mainstream narrative.

Anyway I fully understand them.

Because the water is inside a container, meaning it sits in indentations around the gradient as well as at the bottom of one.
And the gradient is on a massive scale of elevation over massive distance not as in walking up a steep mountain.

Educated does not specifically mean truth.
It means you followed instructions and were marked down for the ability to regurgitate what you learned which gave you a grade that gave you a stance of being better educated or worse educated than others doing the same thing.

You could be studying truth's and fallacies.



ok.

You mean no one backs me up on this forum.
First of all I wouldn't expect anyone to back me up on anything. Most people who view could see what that would lead to and why would they want to throw themselves into the snake pit?


No. It's saying OZ's picture is on the wall and his voice reverberates around the room but the reality of this great and powerful may lie just behind a curtain.


Nope.
Just offer concrete proof. That's all I ask.
People can cite seeing a spinning ball in space but what does it prove other than to accept something they are not able to prove themselves.
I could argue asteroids not being real and you could show me one in the movie, armageddon and sy " look, what more proof do you need."
You have no clue whether you're looking at movie making or real life in this scenario other than to be told it's a movie or to be told it's a reality this time.

You accept what you're told and that's fair enough.........but it's not proof that you can offer and this is why I don't accept.

I have all the proof I need for Earth not being a spinning ball in a space vacuum and I'm more than happy with it.
I don't have proof of what Earth is in its entirety for reality but I'm working on that and may never find the reality......but, what I have found is what isn't reality, which is the nonsensical rotating oblate spheroid story and all the silly trimmings to cater for what we observe.

It's easy to make people follow a direction if that's what is taught as a narrative to follow.


As above.


Yes it does happen.
You see many countries at higher elevation and many at low.
There's a reason for acclimatising.



When you walk down the beach into the water you realise you see the water rising as you take a few steps. Why?
Because the water is in a container. It's in a concave container.#
Surely you didn't think you were walking into water sitting on a convex gradient and still expecting it to gain depth, did you?



Nope, you're thinking of fictional gravity on your fictional globe.


Are you ok?
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You can’t say one minute that it’s your own ‘musings and thought processes’ and in the SAME reply state that everybody else is wrong

‘everybody has an the right to an opinion, but yours is wrong’

you attention seeking, narcissistic, self centred buffoon

you have had 112 pages of proof thrown at you and denied it all, and came back with nonsense. You want to be left to your musings but then pretend to be on an intellectual high horse that only you can be smart enough to know.

little secret, you have proved absolutely nothing
The earth IS a spinning globe-Scientifically Proven
Man DID walk on the moon-scientifically Proven
You ARE NOT as special as you think you are-Definitely proven

you have had quite too much attention for one lifetime which you obviously didn’t get enough of as a child, so I’m out.
 
0verlord44 said:
You can’t say one minute that it’s your own ‘musings and thought processes’ and in the SAME reply state that everybody else is wrong
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Wrong about what?
Let's put this into perspective.
Is being taught something that is wrong and marked on regurgitation of that teaching, mean a person is wrong or correct if they answer in the manner of which was set out?
0verlord44 said:
‘everybody has an the right to an opinion, but yours is wrong’
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And you have that right to that opinion. I just don't agree with it, which is..... like you say..... my right.
0verlord44 said:
you attention seeking, narcissistic, self centred buffoon
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And you are entitled to that as far as I'm concerned.
0verlord44 said:
you have had 112 pages of proof thrown at you and denied it all, and came back with nonsense.
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In your opinion, which is fine.
0verlord44 said:
You want to be left to your musings but then pretend to be on an intellectual high horse that only you can be smart enough to know.
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No. That comes from people like you acting like this. It's your own frustrations that come to the fore.
0verlord44 said:
little secret, you have proved absolutely nothing
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And neither have you.
0verlord44 said:
The earth IS a spinning globe-Scientifically Proven
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No it's not and no it has not. In my honest opinion.
0verlord44 said:
Man DID walk on the moon-scientifically Proven
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Not proven at all but certainly well spoken about and lots of footage of a supposed moon landing.
0verlord44 said:
You ARE NOT as special as you think you are-Definitely proven
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I'm special in my own way just as every other person is special in their own way.

0verlord44 said:
you have had quite too much attention for one lifetime which you obviously didn’t get enough of as a child, so I’m out.
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Thanks for your input while it lasted.
Nobby said:
It's what you posted as the best illustration you could provide
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I've said it many a time. It's the type of set up I believe may be the true shape but not the exactness of that set up, which is why I mentioned the other one put forward.
However, I've been argued against with people using a disc with elephants and turtles holding it up, so it doesn't really matter.

All I can do is give a rough idea to people and let them decide for themselves.
 
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