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Put a flat earthier into space

You're exact words we're "theres plenty of evidence star wars is real", check back.....

Yep but don't just put up part of the wording.
Put it all up and read it.
If you want to go on about it then feel free.
You can see them yourself if you get a telescope and the moons going around them, Jupiter particularly, then at least you'll know nobody is messing with any film or using a fish eye lens.


Ok then I'm sure you have lots of footage of it from your camera and scope, right?
 

Yep but don't just put up part of the wording.
Put it all up and read it.
If you want to go on about it then feel free.



Ok then I'm sure you have lots of footage of it from your camera and scope, right?
Again, what would be the point? Not everyone owns a telescope but well trained and educated astronomers do and you dont believe them either so what would be the point? You arent going to believe anything and will just continue to wind people up like an absolute moron.
 
Again, what would be the point? Not everyone owns a telescope but well trained and educated astronomers do and you dont believe them either so what would be the point? You arent going to believe anything and will just continue to wind people up like an absolute moron.
Do you have any real footage of these planets you go with or are you reliant on others who you do not know, to explain and show you pictures?
 
Yep but don't just put up part of the wording.
Put it all up and read it.
If you want to go on about it then feel free.



Ok then I'm sure you have lots of footage of it from your camera and scope, right?
That's what you said.


There is no point in you looking at footage as you'll say it's doctored.
You basically won't look yourself as it kills your argument unless the projector is projecting them rotating like that, but if that's so why not spin the moon.
Easy way for you to see rotation but dismissed.

I'm sure you mentioned kids, I hope to god you haven't brainwashed them to think like you, if so it's almost mental abuse.
I mean in your world conception can't be real, quick buck and millions of tiny tadpoles disappear up your lass and 9 months later a little you pops out, you couldn't write that sort of stuff!
 
Even if I did have pictures you wouldnt believe them as you dont believe them from experts on the subject.
Let's see them if you have them.
Tell me what telescope and camera and explain it to me if you want to.
If you don't have any then fair enough. It means you're reliant on appealing to authority.
 
I know I said earlier today and last week that I was bowing out but this needs saying again.
Nukehasslefan is NOT a flat earth conspiracy nut. He/she is an internet WUM who is taking the piss out of everyone. He no more believes in a flat earth than I believe that Hogwarts is a real school for wizards and witches.
Please, for the sake of your own sanity stop interacting with him/her.
 
I know I said earlier today and last week that I was bowing out but this needs saying again.
Nukehasslefan is NOT a flat earth conspiracy nut. He/she is an internet WUM who is taking the piss out of everyone. He no more believes in a flat earth than I believe that Hogwarts is a real school for wizards and witches.
Please, for the sake of your own sanity stop interacting with him/her.
That is fair enough. Time to close this thread I reckon, or boot the wum. One or the other.
 
I know I said earlier today and last week that I was bowing out but this needs saying again.
Nukehasslefan is NOT a flat earth conspiracy nut. He/she is an internet WUM who is taking the piss out of everyone. He no more believes in a flat earth than I believe that Hogwarts is a real school for wizards and witches.
Please, for the sake of your own sanity stop interacting with him/her.
I know, I genuinely can't believe that people are still trying to have a serious debate with this WUM. He's just taking the piss and stringing people along :lol:
 
The only reason people don't accept it as real is because it's told as a fiction.
The globe and space stuff we're told about today is fictional (in my opinion) but told and sold as factual and people believe it.

All have books, video and pictures.

Maybe read what I said and you wouldn't need to ask this.




Going by stats and the people who teach religious studies to people, It appears that christianity appears to have over 2 billion followers or islam very close to that with near 2 billion and Hinduism with a billion then a mix of agnostics and atheists making up another billion. Then the lesser populated religions dotted about.
Whether those figures are correct or not, I don't know but they're given out as an estimated sort of fact by authority.
The point being people follow it based entirely on faith.
Many of these people are regarded as pillars of society and have all kinds of jobs that garner respect.

All those religions come backed with lots of paperwork/books/bibles and even films depicting what they stand for and are about.
And then you have the atheists who will be regarded as the lowest of the low to some religious believers and cast off as ignorant, yet who has more proof of reality?

The same goes for the spinning globe. It's nothing more than faith based but people will argue it for truth because they simply massively appeal to the authority surrounding it.
Believeing the earth to be a globe is based on scientific fact, not faith.
 
Luckily it's sold as fiction.


Just a lot of gobbledygook and CGI....etc.


Absolutely doable.





Noooo. It would not need a great deal of people and as for thousands of years...where did you get that from?

Nobody needs to fake a star wars movie. It's passed off as fiction. But if it wasn't then you have a small amount of in the know people who could pull it off. The rest would be simply on a need to know basis.


You're not helping yourself, are you?

Show me real life rotations of planets.
And that is why you fail. We got a little further than I thought. But you either refuse to accept or just can’t understand the idea of a globe, how big it is and how each observer has their own horizon, the bit of earth around them that looks roughly level to the naked eye from ground level.

If you admit it as a concept the maths works out and demonstrates a globe works, but if you rule it out as a concept and can’t go any further then you discount that proof. Lack of understanding or religious like backing away once you realise something to the contary is afoot, I don’t know.

But what I can say is even though you reject following the proof further, as is your right, you admitted the observational evidence of how the apparent height of polaris changes as you move south. No shape other than a globe has been shown to explain this observable fact. It gives us a proof you refuse to accept or can’t understand vs nothing at all. I challenge you now, can you put forward a shape where the maths works against observation and balance up the other side?
Do you have any real footage of these planets you go with or are you reliant on others who you do not know, to explain and show you pictures?
Would you trust me if I provided real footage of these planets? Jupiter is just getting to a nice height.
Please keep your mouth shut you condescending moron. Even if I did have pictures you wouldnt believe them as you dont believe them from experts on the subject. Just log off.
See above. If I get a clear night, I’m happy to provide a video of Juipter for this thread with a full list of equipment and software used. I’m happy to take a photo of the setup and hang a SAFC shirt over it to show I’m not just grabbing random pictures off the net. If it is a lunar transit that is required then there is one of Callisto at 23:43 next Friday.

But I’d like to be clear in advance about what this means and where it will lead. Will it be a proof that the other solar system bodies are globes with other globes in orbit or will it be dismissed while someone wanks themselves silly at the thought of someone putting in a lot of effort only to be dismissed for waffle reasons the next day?
 
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The funny thing about most WUMs is they don't seem to understand that many of the people responding to them are enjoying the exercise at least as much as the WUM is.

Think of it this way: WUM threads are like a fat guy sitting in his parents' basement teasing their cat with a laser pointer. The fat guy flicks his hand, the pointer moves, the cat pounces. The fat guy moves the pointer and the cat pounces again. The fat guy laughs uproariously thinking how funny it is that he can make this idiotic cat pounce. He takes another swig of Carling, spilling much of it down his chin.

Except that there, he has to put in more effort responding to people than they do to him as responding to six gullible felines takes more effort than responding to one basement-dwelling pasty-faced human doughball. Now, instead of moving the laser pointer, he has to spend twenty minutes writing Python code to move the laser pointer. He does so, straining his tiny gravy-addled mind and spilling yet more Carling in doing so, and eventually manages to move the laser pointer. At which point the cat moves again, and he has to repeat the exercise as he is not smart enough to copy and paste his code each time.

This is the tragedy of Nukey here. He thinks he's moving a laser pointer with his hand, but in reality most people ("cats" and mere observers alike) are laughing at him spilling lager while trying to write code. In short, a good time is being had all around, which rather defeats the point of being a WUM.
 
See above. If I get a clear night, I’m happy to provide a video of Juipter for this thread with a full list of equipment and software used. I’m happy to take a photo of the setup and hang a SAFC shirt over it to show I’m not just grabbing random pictures off the net. If it is a lunar transit that is required then there is one of Callisto at 23:43 next Friday.
I wouldnt bother, he will dismiss it instantly.
 
See above. If I get a clear night, I’m happy to provide a video of Juipter for this thread with a full list of equipment and software used. I’m happy to take a photo of the setup and hang a SAFC shirt over it to show I’m not just grabbing random pictures off the net. If it is a lunar transit that is required then there is one of Callisto at 23:43 next Friday.

But I’d like to be clear in advance about what this means and where it will lead. Will it be a proof that the other solar system bodies are globes with other globes in orbit or will it be dismissed while someone wanks themselves silly at the thought of someone putting in a lot of effort only to be dismissed for waffle reasons the next day?

Dave, in the first instance, I think you should do this. Not for the sake of this thread but mainly because it would be very interesting to read.

Secondly, I thought I’d get a jump on this so took this photo last night with my iPhone. Sorry it’s a little out of perspective. Neptune is really much bigger, it’s just it’s further away.


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I know I said earlier today and last week that I was bowing out but this needs saying again.
Nukehasslefan is NOT a flat earth conspiracy nut. He/she is an internet WUM who is taking the piss out of everyone. He no more believes in a flat earth than I believe that Hogwarts is a real school for wizards and witches.
Please, for the sake of your own sanity stop interacting with him/her.
Woah. Hogwarts isn't real?
 
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