Put a flat earthier into space

[TheDataGuy]

Imagine if they said it was all factual like they do with the globe and moon landing stuff and what not. Rovers and helicopters on mars and 70's probes still sending data back from billions and billions of miles.

If we follow the Star Wars thing being true, why is EVERY planet and moon spherical?

 

[Hend79]

I think its time to put this simpleton on ignore, I can literally feel my brain cells cringing everytime he spouts absolute nonsense

 

[payne]

If we follow the Star Wars thing being true, why is EVERY planet and moon spherical?

Keep up.. there is no space, just lights on the dome

 

[DaveH]

Imagine if they said it was all factual like they do with the globe and moon landing stuff and what not. Rovers and helicopters on mars and 70's probes still sending data back from billions and billions of miles.

It's great stuff but fictional sold as factual. In my honest opinion.

I can't believe it needs saying, but if someone tried to pass star wars off as fact then you would have to look and assess how realistic was it, does it conform to known science and maths, can it be verified by other means and also if it was faked how would they do it and how would they cover up it was faked. Well hundreds (probably a few thousand) of people were involved in making it, plenty saw it being filmed, loads made the models for it and the people in it were well known actors from other TV shows and films. Wow, that old man looks just like Alec Guinnes...hang on a minute..... You would expect at least one person involved to come out and not keep the secret. "What, that is not real, I built that part of the set, I have photos" etc.

Now look into the effort that would need to be required to fake a globe earth. It would be absolutely massive, involve every government, many of which are faking their own space programmes for unknown reasons, when they could just say it was not possible and save themselves the bother. It would involve millions of people and more importantly has been going on for thousands of years. If it is not feasible that someone could fake the original star wars trilogy and keep that secret for 45 years, how does this compare?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Lets drop the Leicester students vs NDT, that is too confusing. As both are saying the earth is a globe, I'm happy to believe both.

Nahhhh, let's not.
Both are conflicting so both cannot be correct regardless of whether they supposedly believe in a globe.
If you believe in both then your argument is pointless.

So we have agreed on night and day, stars, the idea that all stars appear to rotate around polaris. We agree that if on a globe people standing in different positions would have their own theoretical line to their own horizon, and we agree we can measure the angle to stars from the horizon.

No, we don't agree.
We agree around a circle this would be the case.
You cannot have any horizon on a globe as I explained before.

If you want to accept your theoretical horizon line is due to horizontal view where atmosphere and land converge your vision to become this theoretical line and your points of light move towards or away from that theoretical line, then carry on.

We also agree that people have observed this effect with our stationary point polaris, and have travelled south and accurately measured the apparent angle to polaris decreasing by a predictable amount as they move south.

Any movement away from a point of light will alter the angle of view for the person.
If you're stood directly under a street light and walk away your angle will change dramatically....but carry on.

So do you think it is then reasonable to say that if we can find a shape of the earth where the established equations of geometry accurately predict the change in height of Polaris as you move south around this shape, then it is possible that this shape is the shape of the earth? However if we try the same geometry on other possible shapes of the earth and it just doesn't match at all, then these shapes can't be the shape of the earth?

In theory this would potentially be the case if we actually knew the set up of Earth in full.

And this is where the issue starts because you are now attempting to play out the globe argument based on your belief you're seeing it as a whole, all the way around and over and under and you're going to gauge a point of light view on that....but it doesn't work.

What does work is the circle or at least a sort of circle.

This allows your horizon and also a view to a point of light depending on where you're stood on that circle looking towards the north you mention.

 

[legend7]

Imagine if they said it was all factual like they do with the globe and moon landing stuff and what not. Rovers and helicopters on mars and 70's probes still sending data back from billions and billions of miles.

It's great stuff but fictional sold as factual. In my honest opinion.

No no you said there was loads of EVIDENCE star wars was real.
What is that evidence?
How can you purport that it's the same when one clearly is a movie and makes no bones about it and the other is proven science based on experiments and erm people actually going into space, in programmes that involve thousands upon thousands of people across the world.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

If we follow the Star Wars thing being true, why is EVERY planet and moon spherical?

They're not. There are no planets .
Tell me why the moon shows one face.

It's not because it's a real cement/rocky like sphere, it's because it's just a reflective light in the sky that moves around and over the inside of the dome, just like the all the rest of the natural reflections and natural holographic effects.

 

[Hend79]

Nahhhh, let's not.
Both are conflicting so both cannot be correct regardless of whether they supposedly believe in a globe.
If you believe in both then your argument is pointless.


No, we don't agree.
We agree around a circle this would be the case.
You cannot have any horizon on a globe as I explained before.

If you want to accept your theoretical horizon line is due to horizontal view where atmosphere and land converge your vision to become this theoretical line and your points of light move towards or away from that theoretical line, then carry on.


Any movement away from a point of light will alter the angle of view for the person.
If you're stood directly under a street light and walk away your angle will change dramatically....but carry on.

In theory this would potentially be the case if we actually knew the set up of Earth in full.

And this is where the issue starts because you are now attempting to play out the globe argument based on your belief you're seeing it as a whole, all the way around and over and under and you're going to gauge a point of light view on that....but it doesn't work.

What does work is the circle or at least a sort of circle.

This allows your horizon and also a view to a point of light depending on where you're stood on that circle looking towards the north you mention.

Your explanations are so ridiculous I cant even comprehend them. Your opinions and beliefs are nothing short of fairytales. You dont agree with hundreds of years of study into the cosmos and the way our planet moves through space but you believe in something you have made up in your own head

 

[legend7]

They're not. There are no planets .
Tell me why the moon shows one face.

It's not because it's a real cement/rocky like sphere, it's because it's just a reflective light in the sky that moves around and over the inside of the dome, just like the all the rest of the natural reflections and natural holographic effects.

So why do we observe other planets rotations then, did we just forget to put the batteries in the moon projector spinner?

 

[TheDataGuy]

They're not. There are no planets .
Tell me why the moon shows one face.

Have you never seen star wars? I am asking If star wars is real, why are all the planets and moons in star wars spherical?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I can't believe it needs saying, but if someone tried to pass star wars off as fact then you would have to look and assess how realistic was it, does it conform to known science and maths, can it be verified by other means and also if it was faked how would they do it and how would they cover up it was faked. Well hundreds (probably a few thousand) of people were involved in making it, plenty saw it being filmed, loads made the models for it and the people in it were well known actors from other TV shows and films. Wow, that old man looks just like Alec Guinnes...hang on a minute..... You would expect at least one person involved to come out and not keep the secret. "What, that is not real, I built that part of the set, I have photos" etc.

Luckily it's sold as fiction.

Now look into the effort that would need to be required to fake a globe earth.

Just a lot of gobbledygook and CGI....etc.

It would be absolutely massive, involve every government, many of which are faking their own space programmes for unknown reasons, when they could just say it was not possible and save themselves the bother.

Absolutely doable.

It would involve millions of people and more importantly has been going on for thousands of years.

Noooo. It would not need a great deal of people and as for thousands of years...where did you get that from?

If it is not feasible that someone could fake the original star wars trilogy and keep that secret for 45 years, how does this compare?

Nobody needs to fake a star wars movie. It's passed off as fiction. But if it wasn't then you have a small amount of in the know people who could pull it off. The rest would be simply on a need to know basis.

I think its time to put this simpleton on ignore, I can literally feel my brain cells cringing everytime he spouts absolute nonsense

Your explanations are so ridiculous I cant even comprehend them. Your opinions and beliefs are nothing short of fairytales. You dont agree with hundreds of years of study into the cosmos and the way our planet moves through space but you believe in something you have made up in your own head

You're not helping yourself, are you?

So why do we observe other planets rotations then, did we just forget to put the batteries in the moon projector spinner?

Show me real life rotations of planets.

 

[Hend79]

...where did you get that from?


You're not helping yourself, are you?

Where do you get your crackpot ideas from?

And you certainly arent helping yourself you absolute loon.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Have you never seen star wars? I am asking If star wars is real, why are all the planets and moons in star wars spherical?

Maybe because the movie makers decided this would be good to do to follow the narrative of a so called global Earth and so called planets, etc.

 

[taipeisafc]

They're not. There are no planets .
Tell me why the moon shows one face.

It's not because it's a real cement/rocky like sphere, it's because it's just a reflective light in the sky that moves around and over the inside of the dome, just like the all the rest of the natural reflections and natural holographic effects.

Absolute shite from an utter tool

 

[legend7]

Show me real life rotations of planets.

Buy a telescope mate.
As I say if in your mad head they are all just magic reflections why did the fella/magician/imaginary friend not make the moon rotate in front of our eyes when the others do?

And the evidence star wars is real that you say there is loads of?

 

[Hend79]

Absolute shite from an utter tool

Honestly mate, im getting more frustrated the more the idiot posts. Probably what he wants to be fair.

Imagine if this loon was living in the age where we had to abandon this planet, Id expect him to refuse as he doesnt believe other planets exist and are projections on a giant dome. To be fair he would be one who would get left behind for being no value to the human race whatsoever

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Buy a telescope mate.
As I say if in your mad head they are all just magic reflections why did the fella/magician/imaginary friend not make the moon rotate in front of our eyes when the others do?

Show me your rotating planets. You must have lots of footage of them with your telescope....right?

And the evidence star wars is real that you say there is loads of?

I never said it was real. It's about paying attention to what I did say.

Honestly mate, im getting more frustrated the more the idiot posts. Probably what he wants to be fair.

I sincerely advise you to put me on ignore.
If you believe what you're saying then you're causing your own pain.

Imagine if this loon was living in the age where we had to abandon this planet, Id expect him to refuse as he doesnt believe other planets exist and are projections on a giant dome.

Absolutely I would refuse.

To be fair he would be one who would get left behind for being no value to the human race whatsoever

I'd be of value to the cell of Earth.

I'd be more worried about where the masses were being taken to, because they're not getting out of this cell.

 

[Hend79]

Show me your rotating planets. You must have lots of footage of them with your telescope....right?

There are thousands of images and clips online from numerous well respected scientists and astronomers which you dont believe. So what is the point in anyone on here showing you any pictures they might have? You would just say its nonsense and cover your eyes and ears while shouting you dont believe it. Stop winding people up as we all know thats what you are doing.

I'd be of value to the cell of Earth.

I'd be more worried about where the masses were being taken to, because they're not getting out of this cell.

You are wrong, you would be no value at all

 

[Nukehasslefan]

There are thousands of images and clips online from numerous well respected scientists and astronomers which you dont believe. So what is the point in anyone on here showing you any pictures they might have? You would just say its nonsense and cover your eyes and ears while shouting you dont believe it. Stop winding people up as we all know thats what you are doing.

I suggest you ignore me.
If you would like me to ignore you just say the word and I will not be answering any of your posts. If that suits, just say the words.

 

[legend7]

Show me your rotating planets. You must have lots of footage of them with your telescope....right?


I never said it was real. It's about paying attention to what I did say.

You're exact words we're "theres plenty of evidence star wars is real", check back.....

You can see them yourself if you get a telescope and the moons going around them, Jupiter particularly, then at least you'll know nobody is messing with any film or using a fish eye lens.

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