Put a flat earthier into space

[payne]

He’s taking the piss out of you all. Read what he’s putting. It’s getting more and more outlandish the more he types. He’s playing to an audience.
This thread has turned into the Internet forum equivalent of Bethlem Royal Hospital, more commonly known as Bedlam - the place where ordinary members of the public could, upon payment, go and have a laugh at the insane.
The only difference is that he’s not insane.

It's fantastic.

We couldn't reach the dome. The atmosphere is far too thin in terms of breathable for us, or machine.
What evidence there is of a dome, for me comes from basic observations and senses plus container evacuation (bell jar and pump) that shows how the atmospheric pressure is broken down and how it can be broken down to show many variations with gases and liquids.

Many will argue against it and that's fair enough but it doesn't change my stance on it.

Has no1 ever got near to the edge and passed out like one would with lack of oxygen up a mountain. Surely that would be something people could try out.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

It's fantastic.

Has no1 ever got near to the edge and passed out like one would with lack of oxygen up a mountain. Surely that would be something people could try out.

There is no edge. It's a sealed cell.

As for mountains and such, we see it and hear about it all of the time where people require oxygen supplement to gain altitude or planes needing a pressurised cabin/fuselage in order to fly at higher altitude.

And this is only at 30,000 feet, so higher is going to be a killer for anyone almost instantly, without supplement.

 

[DPTT]

Not all but certainly most of it.


And this is what it's all about. It's about proving facts in this case, in terms of what we're debating. None have come forward from your side.
Your facts are based entirely on what you learned about Earth and space. Not physically but by reading and word of mouth and even your very own observations that you think there maybe some credence to, for your own mindset, etc.
That's all we can rely on if we have no physical proof.

It would be easier for you to argue by saying you believe Earth to be a globe and space to be what you're told because it makes sense to you, even if you have no facts to back it up.

That all depends on what you're allowed to do outside of that teaching.
Most of it is about following the teaching and being marked on how well you follow it.

No, we don't clearly disagree. You're making out I say the entire system but I mentioned innovative people.
My argument, as above, is simple and is basically how most of it works.
A professor will still teach what that professor was taught as well as experimenting on their own.

A real scientist will be looking for new ways and new discoveries. I have no issue with that.
To become one of them through the system it's about following the teachings until you're at the stage of furthering that, independently.

I have no issues with discoveries that have legitimate provable benefits.


Fantastic. I hope you've had more than enough enjoyment (and hopefully still do) with all what you've studied and taught, etc. I mean that genuinely.
None of it offers any proof about what we're arguing/debating on this so called spinning globe, or oblate spheroid, as we're told, etc.


And to think you thought to ask me about my qualifications when you actually had all my data at your fingertips.



What is the best view of an education system?

First of all understand that I'm not offering facts. I'm offering my thoughts on what may be a possibility to me, regardless of how nuts t may sound to you or anyone else.

So, with that in mind I will answer your questions.

The centre is potentially a super carbon that is electrically arced by a feed of hydrogen and helium, plus other molecules. Basically a large scale welding like arc that is then reflected through massive crystals into the sky and reflected back from the dome to the outer Earth.

Other Earth cells would not be observed by us because they would be attached, possibly with an ice and the dome would offer us no vision except the vision to mirror what is on Earth.
This is why everything would reflect off it and seeing beyond it would be to see a nothing, or a blackness to our vision due to every colour spectrum being absorbed in that blackness but the dome itself against that blackness would be turned into a perfect mirror of clear ice of hydrogen/helium under super low pressure.

You asked the questions. I answered.

I can't offer you a truth of a cell world,. I can only offer you my take on what I believe it could potentially be as opposed to what I absolutely believe it is not, which is a spinning globe in a space vacuum.

So does this projection come from within the earth and beamed onto the dome?

 

[DaveH]

There is no edge. It's a sealed cell.

As for mountains and such, we see it and hear about it all of the time where people require oxygen supplement to gain altitude or planes needing a pressurised cabin/fuselage in order to fly at higher altitude.

And this is only at 30,000 feet, so higher is going to be a killer for anyone almost instantly, without supplement.

The dome must reach the ground, at the south pole, which becomes the whopping 78,138 mile ring surrounding us in your world. Why no go there and touch it?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So does this projection come from within the earth and beamed onto the dome?

You can think of it that way, yes.

 

[DPTT]

You can think of it that way, yes.

So their must be a hole in the ground where this projection comes from yes?
And are these lights (stars) we see fixed on the dome or projected from within

 

[payne]

The dome must reach the ground, at the south pole, which becomes the whopping 78,138 mile ring surrounding us in your world. Why no go there and touch it?

This is the area I mean. If it's got too little air there must be an area before one reaches it that can be approached to perform the experiment. Like can I reach within 100 milles before it becomes inhospitable

 

[Nukehasslefan]

The dome must reach the ground, at the south pole, which becomes the whopping 78,138 mile ring surrounding us in your world. Why no go there and touch it?

There is no south pole.
And the dome does reach the ground. It has to have a foundation. The foundation would also be ice.
The entire set up could be any distance around.
There would be no ring at the foundation just a gradual gradient of ever thinning ice elevating towards the clear dome.

 

[DaveH]

This is the area I mean. If it's got too little air there must be an area before one reaches it that can be approached to perform the experiment. Like can I reach within 100 milles before it becomes inhospitable

Surely there is air because it would be at ground level? If not, why would the air stop? I guess the same reason all clouds stop at projection central - reasons.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So their must be a hole in the ground where this projection comes from yes?

Yes. A hole in a massive all round gradient emanating from the centre.

And are these lights (stars) we see fixed on the dome or projected from within

Projected from within through crystal.

Surely there is air because it would be at ground level? If not, why would the air stop? I guess the same reason all clouds stop at projection central - reasons.

The air above stops for us, in terms of breathable because it's under far too little pressure for our dense bodies.
This is why people start to struggle as they ascend mountains and such.

 

[DaveH]

There is no south pole.
And the dome does reach the ground. It has to have a foundation. The foundation would also be ice.
The entire set up could be any distance around.
There would be no ring at the foundation just a gradual gradient of ever thinning ice elevating towards the clear dome.

So we could go there and see it? I mean there must be a transition between land/sea and dome?

The average sea temperature at the surface is 16 degrees, helium freezes at -272 degrees, so there must be a hell of a transition zone where it gradually gets really cold, and by that I mean absolutely insanely cold. Even a parker will not cut it,

Yes. A hole in a massive all round gradient emanating from the centre.

Projected from within through crystal.

The air above stops for us, in terms of breathable because it's under far too little pressure for our dense bodies.
This is why people start to struggle as they ascend mountains and such.

Ah, so the earth is some sort of disk but basically curves up as mountains too high for us, that this helium ice dome sits on top of?

 

[DPTT]

Yes. A hole in a massive all round gradient emanating from the centre.

Projected from within through crystal.

The air above stops for us, in terms of breathable because it's under far too little pressure for our dense bodies.
This is why people start to struggle as they ascend mountains and such.

So why have no one ever found this “hole”

Where do you think this hole is

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So we could go there and see it? I mean there must be a transition between land/sea and dome?

Yep, there would be a transition but not one where we could trek and survive.
The more we went towards the centre the more the reflective energy of the inner sun would mis us and the colder it would get, until we basically stand solid, including vehicles.

Basically the coldest weather a human has survived in would be like a heatwave of summer compared.

The average sea temperature at the surface is 16 degrees, helium freezes at -272 degrees, so there must be a hell of a transition zone where it gradually gets really cold, and by that I mean absolutely insanely cold. Even a parker will not cut it,

Absolutely.
The transition is gradual but consistent.
There will come a time when any person and vehicle has to stop or face the consequences of dying way way short of anything close to those temperatures.

So why have no one ever found this “hole”

Maybe they do know. They have massive telescopes on mountains. Maybe they actually see a lot more than what we're being told.
As for physically finding it by trekking, read above.

Where do you think this hole is

Centre of this cell.

 

[Kevj]

Maybe they do know. They have massive telescopes on mountains. Maybe they actually see a lot more than what we're being told.
As for physically finding it by trekking, read above.

You should petition NASA to use their powerful cameras on satellites to see if they can locate it from space.

 

[payne]

You should petition NASA to use their powerful cameras on satellites to see if they can locate it from space.

He doesn't believe there are any satellites or indeed space in and of itself

 

[fyl2u]

And this is what it's all about. It's about proving facts in this case, in terms of what we're debating. None have come forward from your side.

Yes, they have. Literally everybody else on this thread is on his side with his description of the education system.

Many, many facts and proofs have been given to you on this thread, you're just too stubborn to acknowledge them.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

You should petition NASA to use their powerful cameras on satellites to see if they can locate it from space.

I don't believe there are satellites in the space we're told to believe in.

Yes, they have. Literally everybody else on this thread is on his side with his description of the education system.

People being on someone's side is neither here nor there.
Mass acceptance of a model does not give credence to one person arguing for it.

Many, many facts and proofs have been given to you on this thread, you're just too stubborn to acknowledge them.

None whatsoever.

 

[fyl2u]

None whatsoever.

Many MANY

 

[DPTT]

Yep, there would be a transition but not one where we could trek and survive.
The more we went towards the centre the more the reflective energy of the inner sun would mis us and the colder it would get, until we basically stand solid, including vehicles.

Basically the coldest weather a human has survived in would be like a heatwave of summer compared.


Absolutely.
The transition is gradual but consistent.
There will come a time when any person and vehicle has to stop or face the consequences of dying way way short of anything close to those temperatures.

Maybe they do know. They have massive telescopes on mountains. Maybe they actually see a lot more than what we're being told.
As for physically finding it by trekking, read above.

Centre of this cell.

So why are they projecting lights (stars)?

what purpose do they serve?
And what are shooting lights (stars) and comets we see?
Is this the dome falling to bits

 

[legend7]

Not all but certainly most of it.


And this is what it's all about. It's about proving facts in this case, in terms of what we're debating. None have come forward from your side.
Your facts are based entirely on what you learned about Earth and space. Not physically but by reading and word of mouth and even your very own observations that you think there maybe some credence to, for your own mindset, etc.
That's all we can rely on if we have no physical proof.

It would be easier for you to argue by saying you believe Earth to be a globe and space to be what you're told because it makes sense to you, even if you have no facts to back it up.

That all depends on what you're allowed to do outside of that teaching.
Most of it is about following the teaching and being marked on how well you follow it.

No, we don't clearly disagree. You're making out I say the entire system but I mentioned innovative people.
My argument, as above, is simple and is basically how most of it works.
A professor will still teach what that professor was taught as well as experimenting on their own.

A real scientist will be looking for new ways and new discoveries. I have no issue with that.
To become one of them through the system it's about following the teachings until you're at the stage of furthering that, independently.

I have no issues with discoveries that have legitimate provable benefits.


Fantastic. I hope you've had more than enough enjoyment (and hopefully still do) with all what you've studied and taught, etc. I mean that genuinely.
None of it offers any proof about what we're arguing/debating on this so called spinning globe, or oblate spheroid, as we're told, etc.


And to think you thought to ask me about my qualifications when you actually had all my data at your fingertips.



What is the best view of an education system?

First of all understand that I'm not offering facts. I'm offering my thoughts on what may be a possibility to me, regardless of how nuts t may sound to you or anyone else.

So, with that in mind I will answer your questions.

The centre is potentially a super carbon that is electrically arced by a feed of hydrogen and helium, plus other molecules. Basically a large scale welding like arc that is then reflected through massive crystals into the sky and reflected back from the dome to the outer Earth.

Other Earth cells would not be observed by us because they would be attached, possibly with an ice and the dome would offer us no vision except the vision to mirror what is on Earth.
This is why everything would reflect off it and seeing beyond it would be to see a nothing, or a blackness to our vision due to every colour spectrum being absorbed in that blackness but the dome itself against that blackness would be turned into a perfect mirror of clear ice of hydrogen/helium under super low pressure.

You asked the questions. I answered.

I can't offer you a truth of a cell world,. I can only offer you my take on what I believe it could potentially be as opposed to what I absolutely believe it is not, which is a spinning globe in a space vacuum.

Have you been to Australia? If you haven't then by your logic it may not exist because you haven't seen it yourself I take it?

Yes, they have. Literally everybody else on this thread is on his side with his description of the education system.

Many, many facts and proofs have been given to you on this thread, you're just too stubborn to acknowledge them.

He's a f***ing idiot mate but it's entertaining.
Or worrying as he may have some serious mental health issues.
Wonder what his mates think if he has any?