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Voice of fair play said:
Well quite but once they have best to support it as it failing makes things even worse.
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No evidence whatsoever to suggest that would be the case.

On the other hand, if counties who’ve been excluded from the 16.4 go to the wall you’ve lost over 50% of your base support of the sport in this country.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
Well quite but once they have best to support it as it failing makes things even worse.
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as someone has just said, it teams go to the wall because of it, you will have parts of the country exposed. my nearest team is 80 miles away, I'm not gonna travel 80 miles to watch a game of "cricket" if Durham went to the wall for example.

Would Derbyshire fans go to Trent Bridge for example? I highly doubt it.
 
brandon said:
No evidence whatsoever to suggest that would be the case.

On the other hand, if counties who’ve been excluded from the 16.4 go to the wall you’ve lost over 50% of your base support of the sport in this country.
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You should know my stance by now mate, would have been more than happy counties been included in it, in fact would have best option all round.

However once that was decided rightly or wrongly ( probably wrongly) was still going to support any competition that gets more kids and families involved and yes that could have been done with all counties but once it wasn’t still want it to be a success.
brandon said:
No evidence whatsoever to suggest that would be the case.

On the other hand, if counties who’ve been excluded from the 16.4 go to the wall you’ve lost over 50% of your base support of the sport in this country.
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As I have said many teams mate would have been best if the counties were included from the very start to keep all concerned happy.

As to me the most important thing is a fully promoted competition to get more kids and families involved.
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
as someone has just said, it teams go to the wall because of it, you will have parts of the country exposed. my nearest team is 80 miles away, I'm not gonna travel 80 miles to watch a game of "cricket" if Durham went to the wall for example.

Would Derbyshire fans go to Trent Bridge for example? I highly doubt it.
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The problem is they don't go to Derby.
wayne entwhistle no9 said:
The problem is they don't go to Derby.
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Durhams only concerns are off the field not on it. Clubs like Derby are hapless on and off it and have been for decades.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
As to me the most important thing is a fully promoted competition to get more kids and families involved.
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I get that, but what you’re failing to understand, despite me, GMNo1Fan, Silly Point and many many others painstakingly explaining it to you over and over again is that even a ‘fully promoted competition’ that excludes over 50% of the existing fanbase is NOT going to get more kids and families involved.

It might get NEW ones involved. BUT over half the ones who already are involved have been excluded. So you need to increase the kids and family grouping by 155% just to hit net zero.

There were loads of examples today at Headingley where the camera focussed in on kids with families at the Test Match. (One even had a Durham cap on :cool:) I’m going to be so bold as to suggest they were interested in cricket before this year.

The wheel didn’t need reinventing. It wasn’t broken, it didn’t need fixing. It just needed fine-tuning and all the things that FTECB have done for/to this new format are things that supporters of domestic cricket have been saying for years.

You keep saying that the two formats can’t co-exist. There needs to be a decision made to keep one of them. What we’re saying to you is that if the decision is to bin the Blast - that is highly likely to kill off some of the counties.
 
wayne entwhistle no9 said:
Durhams only concerns are off the field not on it. Clubs like Derby are hapless on and off it and have been for decades.
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So what you’re saying is switch off the life support?

You say they’re hapless, but there are ‘bigger’ counties who’ve spent less time in the top tier of the Championship than them over the last 20 years. There are also counties who’ve done less for the national side than they have during that time too.
 
brandon said:
So what you’re saying is switch off the life support?

You say they’re hapless, but there are ‘bigger’ counties who’ve spent less time in the top tier of the Championship than them over the last 20 years. There are also counties who’ve done less for the national side than they have during that time too.
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As I have told you before Derbyshire Leicestershire and Northants would go. I would also look at some others as well.
I believe in regional cricket with each regional team responsible for developing the players in that entire region. Not everbodies cup of tea but personally I think its the way forward.
Also wouldn't have any players not qualified for England playing in first class cricket.
 
wayne entwhistle no9 said:
As I have told you before Derbyshire Leicestershire and Northants would go. I would also look at some others as well.
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What’s your rationale for that though? Is it simply because they don’t (or haven’t lately) produce(d) a great number of England players? Or because of on pitch performances in the last decade?

Without those counties there’d have been no Graeme Swann, no Stuart Broad, no Dominic Cork.

Much of their struggles now can be easily linked to the fact they don’t play out of Test venues. We’ve had the privilege of both worlds in the very recent past. Of hosting Test/international cricket, but since Graves’ attempt to exterminate us also of being out of the loop and there’s nothing to suggest that in the next 10 or 20 years of not being a Test venue we won’t end up in a similar predicament 🤷‍♂️

wayne entwhistle no9 said:
I believe in regional cricket with each regional team responsible for developing the players in that entire region. Not everbodies cup of tea but personally I think its the way forward.
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It doesn’t happen though 🤷‍♂️

There are some fairly sizeable minor counties that barely ever produce Test cricketers and to me there’s no coincidence that those counties are overlooked/forgotten/left out because they only play minor counties crickrt

wayne entwhistle no9 said:
Also wouldn't have any players not qualified for England playing in first class cricket.
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I’m fairly confident in saying that would massively impair the development of our cricketers.

You only get better by competing against the best. Imagine Durham without ever having had Dean Jones, David Boon, Dale Benkenstein, Mike Hussey, Michael Di Venuto, Otis Gibson and many many more tremendous cricketers who played for us.
 
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