Environment crisis



It’s amazing really. Likely to face major changes within a couple of liveable generations (If we get that far) and people still only paying lip service. It was 30 degrees in Siberia this last month. We’re facing an inevitable crisis to end all crisisis

The planet will be fine and adapt. It’s the inhabitants that will be fucked
 
Market Where? said:
So you know that for every field of cows there are 10 or so fields of sterile insect free Monoceros to feed the cows. Not so much in the UK as most beef is grass fed but applied to other meat.
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I have no idea what the percentage of grain fed to grass fed cattle is but as most cattle in the USA is grain fed I'd guess you're not far out. We need fields full of cows, not sterile fields full of crops for humans (and cows). The thread title is ENVIROMENT CRISIS which is why I piped up about a field full of cows as opposed to a field full of corn. Getting rid of cows will just mean more sterile fields full of crops to feed humans instead of cows. People on this thread and in general seem to only care about the human crisis and don't give a shit about the ENVIROMENT CRISIS. If people can eat, drink, reproduce and then die peacefully in their sleep all is good, if anything threatens that then it must die.
 
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zwartekat said:
I'm not denying it but I genuinely feel at a loss as to what can be done that will have a significant impact. I recycle, I don't have a car, I try to use as little electricity as possible, etc. but I suspect its nowhere near enough to alter the course we're on. Part of me still selfishly says that life is bloody short and just live it.

I also wonder how you persuade industrialising countries to put environmental issues above wealth creation.
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Employers don’t help.
I could ditch my car if I could permanently work from home.

Governments don’t help.
I would have solar panels if they were subsidised.

Public transport is expensive.

New houses could be built to ‘passive’ standards.

Etc.
 
Stevie Freestein II said:
Employers don’t help.
I could ditch my car if I could permanently work from home.

Governments don’t help.
I would have solar panels if they were subsidised.

Public transport is expensive.

New houses could be built to ‘passive’ standards.

Etc.
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I work for the 'civil service'.

We've been wfh for nearly a year now. Performance has gone up. Sickness has actually gone down!

Yesterday they announced plans to have us back in the office blended working. 3 days a week in the office.

Whats the point? Putting people at risk, extra cars on the road. Extra pollution, stress.

It's just absolutely backwards.

Government should be setting an example.
 
Tuono said:
I have no idea what the percentage of grain fed to grass fed cattle is but as most cattle in the USA is grain fed I'd guess you're not far out. We need fields full of cows, not sterile fields full of crops for humans (and cows). The thread title is ENVIROMENT CRISIS which is why I piped up about a field full of cows as opposed to a field full of corn. Getting rid of cows will just mean more sterile fields full of crops to feed humans instead of cows. People on this thread and in general seem to only care about the human crisis and don't give a shit about the ENVIROMENT CRISIS. If people can eat, drink, reproduce and then die peacefully in their sleep all is good, if anything threatens that then it must die.
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Without meat we would need less land for crops. It’s much more efficient calorie wise to directly feed the crop to a human rather than feed it to an animal and then the human eats the animal.
 
Upthere said:
A lot of hypocrisy in the world when it comes to this, the rich have a lot to answer for imo from their private jets and so forward whilst preaching to the normal person
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You can replace environmental damage issues with Taxes, equality, working conditions and a range of other morally contentious choices they make.
 
Kevj said:
You can replace environmental damage issues with Taxes, equality, working conditions and a range of other morally contentious choices they make.
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That’s it, I seen some thing a while ago might be a bit irrelevant but seen after the BP oil spill it was the best thing to happen to the area of coast, as the following months and years repaired so much damage
 
It's already done. It's like fretting about shooting someone when after they have been shot. My carbon footprint is very low. I'm a childless vegan whose never driven, cycles to work, beach cleans in my spare time and hasn't left the UK in 14 years but I don't do any of these things to limit my environmental impact. Why should I? Why should normal people limit their lifestyles when government and corporation's don't. I hope I'm wrong but I think not having kids will be the best decision in my life because the world's gonna get fubared in the next 15/20 years
 
Market Where? said:
Without meat we would need less land for crops. It’s much more efficient calorie wise to directly feed the crop to a human rather than feed it to an animal and then the human eats the animal.
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As I keep pointing out and your post seems to support it, people aren't interested in saving the planet only in saving the human race and bollox to biodiversity.
 
Tuono said:
As I keep pointing out and your post seems to support it, people aren't interested in saving the planet only in saving the human race and bollox to biodiversity.
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No not at all, im much more interested in the Planet. Don’t elect me as I would happily create policies that would see a few million people composted! I just disagree with your thoughts on meat. If we all went vegetarian it would reduce our environmental footprint and allow us to put a lot of agricultural land back to nature.
 
Tuono said:
As I keep pointing out and your post seems to support it, people aren't interested in saving the planet only in saving the human race and bollox to biodiversity.
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This says a meat eater needs 17 times more Land than a vegetarian.

What would happen if everyone went vegan? | BBC Good Food

What would happen if every person on Earth adopted a vegan diet – without milk, meat, honey, or any animal-sourced food? It’s a hypothetical question, but environmental writer Paul Allen argues that it's more relevant than ever
www.bbcgoodfood.com
 
Market Where? said:
Is there anybody on here still in denial about the environmental emergency we have created? Just wondering.
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Yeah as a normal person with a very nondescript life i'd agree that we have done harm to this planet. However on the flipside I don't agree with far left activism that seems to have attached themselves to this cause.
 

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