Flat Earthers

[taipeisafc]

Concave mirrors do.

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[Nukehasslefan]

I was fortunate enough to have an active imagination and go to a good school.

Nothing wrong with that.

So my young mind went to work all of the matters others found tedious or incomprehensible.

Nothing wrong with that, either.

As I stated earlier on, by the time I went to big school I'd figured it all out - including the CT bunk(which was still relatively small time then)

In your mind you will have.

Scientist's spew out lots of stuff for a reason, there lots to consider.

I agree. Proper scientists do come out with stuff for legitimate reasons but there can also be the other side of the coin, right?

When you drop a pencil on the floor what happens? It flys through the air, drag, heat (a tiny amount), impact (energy absorption), noise (more energy given out) etc. It would take a lengthy report just to detail all the required forces and energy involved.

Indeed it would but gravity does not come into the set up, in my opinion.

The thing with science is, it investigates everything and if there is something missing which won't allow completion, the process begins again.

Legitimate scientific research, I agree.

Having been involved for a while now, it works.

The earthbound and near earth science has so many people checking these days you simply couldn't sail anything past them all.

Who says it has?
It's so easy to believe real, genuine scientists would see something amiss and blurt it out and it's easy to go by the old, "someone would surely say something" yet often negated is the many many people who have and often had mishaps and so on and so on.

And yet people will argue " like who?" As if everything about the world we live in, in regards of people, just seems to be all above board and nobody is fooling nobody for gain or whatever.

It's fact based science and the fiction is filtered out remarkably quickly.

And you believe that, which is fair enough.
I absolutely do not on many counts.

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[cosmicchris00]

And yet you cannot prove it.

If I give out anything as factual I would prove it.
That's why water level stands out as observable, testable and repeatable.

It's also why gravity, black holes, wormholes in so called space and vacuums in how they tell us...etc....etc, including a spinning globe, are not observable, testable and repeatable unless the use of CGI is brought into play for the average Joe to argue for.


It's all about our own sense and mindset on what we observe and test for ourselves, personally that allows us to have a perception different to the one sold to us which is akin to religion, in terms of being almost coaxed into having faith that the stories told are all supposedly truth, in my opinion.

Planes flying - accepted science fact

The forces involved - gravitational forces of plane (including passenger and cargo) balanced against lift provided by the wings.

You can't see it all happening but its happening nonetheless.

It's still magical to me even after all these years

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Planes flying - accepted science fact

Yep, I have no issue with that.

The forces involved - gravitational forces of plane (including passenger and cargo) balanced against lift provided by the wings.

I have every issue with that.

You can't see it all happening but its happening nonetheless.

Because?

It's still magical to me even after all these years

Of course. It's magical to anyone who tries to understand gravity, because that's all gravity is, in my opinion.

 

[legend7]

Nope. You'd see lights moving over.
Anywhere you stand would alter what you see in the sky.

Surely if it was a mirror you would also see land and see mirrored in the "dome" can't say I've seen Shields Beach when I've looked into the sky

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Surely if it was a mirror you would also see land and see mirrored in the "dome" can't say I've seen Shields Beach when I've looked into the sky

Points of light reflected off it would be the best we could hope for.
Having said that, the mountain top one's...you know, the Government ran one's may see something much different to what we see.

Maybe.

 

[cosmicchris00]

Yep, I have no issue with that.


I have every issue with that.



Because?


Of course. It's magical to anyone who tries to understand gravity, because that's all gravity is, in my opinion.

Why does the plane need wings?

They're the most sophisticated element of an aircraft after the engine.

Why not just do away with them , bugger the lift requirement!

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Why does the plane need wings?

To skim the air at speed so it can ride along the mass of it, balanced.

They're the most sophisticated element of an aircraft after the engine.

Yep and they do a great job.

Why not just do away with them , bugger the lift requirement!

They're needed to skim the air and balance the fuselage.

 

[cosmicchris00]

To skim the air at speed so it can ride along the mass of it, balanced.

They're needed to skim the air and balance the fuselage.

And the lift they generate... what is the purpose of that?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

And the lift they generate... what is the purpose of that?

To fly.

 

[tunstall birdman]

If the Earth is flat. does that mean Black Holes are flat anarl? in fact, is everything flat and we are living in a Frisbee Universe?

 

[payne]

Why the need for an alternative explanation for everything when the ones we have now work?

 

[ajthemackem]

Why the need for an alternative explanation for everything when the ones we have now work?

Inability to cope with reality.
See: Qanon, Covid Hoax, other things I shall not get into outside of the Politics Board...

 

[cosmicchris00]

To fly.

Overcoming which force?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Overcoming which force?

Atmospheric.

 

[Tadger]

I think I might have asked this before but I can’t remember if I got an answer so I’ll ask again, are ground and naval Artillery targeting procedures part of the conspiracy? As they has to calculate the curvature of the Earth for some of the longer range artillery pieces.

@Nukehasslefan

 

[ajthemackem]

I think I might have asked this before but I can’t remember if I got an answer so I’ll ask again, are ground and naval Artillery targeting procedures part of the conspiracy? As they has to calculate the curvature of the Earth for some of the longer range artillery pieces.

Coriolis Effect.

 

[cosmicchris00]

Atmospheric.

Atmospheric loading should not be taken into account when calculating other forces such as lift required by aircraft, unless there are extraordinary factors (such as violent storm or hurricane)

If the mass of air really was what is holding us down (not gravity), humans would be squashed flat.

 

[Baloo]

Atmospheric loading should not be taken into account when calculating other forces such as lift required by aircraft, unless there are extraordinary factors (such as violent storm or hurricane)

If the mass of air really was what is holding us down (not gravity), humans would be squashed flat.

Also, when you inhale would you not be considerably heavier than when you exhale?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Atmospheric loading should not be taken into account when calculating other forces such as lift required by aircraft, unless there are extraordinary factors (such as violent storm or hurricane)

If the mass of air really was what is holding us down (not gravity), humans would be squashed flat.

Not at all.
We are well equipped to deal with the pressure, as long as that pressure does not fluctuate too much .
Once the pressure becomes too dense or much less dense, we suffer because our bodies can't properly cope.

We simple use the ground as our foundation. Our leverage to push into the atmosphere.
No need for gravity we are all told about.