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beezer said:
Imagine how we felt when it was on the Sky yellow bar that Mancini wants the gig and then a week later old cabbage head rocks up!!

So anyway Geordie managers that are good are acceptable and geordie managers that are shit aren’t allowed. That logic is perfectly fine, you only want good managers. Just don’t fawn over robson for being a geordie if your not gonna do it for others.
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Anybody who does good is an adopted Geordie anyway...
 

Mr B said:
I’m still waiting for you to back up your claim about Ashley taking money out of the club.
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We're never going to agree on that subject......so lets leave it there, on the subject of Bruce the amazing thing is Fat Mike paid around £5M compensation for him to Sheff Wed and you all thought Mike was an astute businessman
 
Mr B said:
I’m still waiting for you to back up your claim about Ashley taking money out of the club.
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Ashley is owed 111m (now 133m) and earned interest at 4.5% as he received 505k. You could argue that is taking money out of the club.
 
The thing I really hated about Bruce was that he was always looking to divert blame when his results were crap.

As soon as he had a few bad results & criticism at Sunderland he blamed anyone but himself. The fans were great to him here yet he twisted valid criticism (when we were sinking & he hadn't a clue) into 'they've never accepted me as a Geordie'.

Even this 'spygate' at the Mag's training ground is being used to divert from shit results & performances.

The man is a fraud.
 
jlaws said:
Ashley is owed 111m (now 133m) and earned interest at 4.5% as he received 505k. You could argue that is taking money out of the club.
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Apologies 462,000 on 111m is tiny! Effectively interest free.
 
Binxy said:
So it's all about the points and not positions?

By that logic 2nd place and 85 points is better than 1st and 80 points.
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No, because you've won something. However for the teams in the middle with fuck all to celebrate the difference between finishing 11th and 14th is nothing. So if the season you finish 11th on 44pts and the season you finish 14th you get 45pts, that's something to show you've progressed as a team. Because, and I can't believe I'm having to spell this out, you can't influence the results of other teams outside their fixtures against you. So if you've got more points than you did the year before, that's progress.
 
jlaws said:
Ashley is owed 111m (now 133m) and earned interest at 4.5% as he received 505k. You could argue that is taking money out of the club.
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personally i'd say paying back money loaned to it on low interest if thats the case wasnt taking money out.
paying himself or others a massive dividend out of profits would be. or maybe taking club income like parachute payments out.
 
Exile 1968 said:
And again as always you're talking absolute bollocks.

Can I ask when you first started watching the Mags?
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First game was 1990 as a birthday present, went on and off but didn't get a season ticket until 1999/2000
cluffy said:
I agree Pardew hs had the most success for you lot in recent years
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That season was brilliant. And being back in Europe was fun too. Pardew was way too streaky a manager to see it going any way but down though.
 
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The Fish said:
First game was 1990 as a birthday present, went on and off but didn't get a season ticket until 1999/2000

That season was brilliant. And being back in Europe was fun too. Pardew was way too streaky a manager to see it going any way but down though.
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You must be a few years younger than me. My first season ticket was 1986 and I'm early fifties. Though my first game was 1979 versus Everton (1st home game of the season and my Dad took me).

I noticed you missed out the Keegan years from 1992. Was that deliberate?
 
jlaws said:
There is also a couple of reasons from my perspective: (i) the fact that you lauded him though he never won anything but enjoyed basking in the reflective glory of his past merits. I have never known a set of fans who enjoy reflective glory more than Newcastle fans; (ii) apologies I forget the exact time line but a pal of mine was working on his house (incredible!) and it was a pretty open secret he was going to China long before the end of the season. So the "Ashley didn't back him" was just PR as he was off to China in any case. Newcastle, being 3 hours ish away, suited him when his youngest was doing GCSE's and oldest A'levels.
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I've heard that the decision was made a while before the announcement too. But your position appears to be that Ashley moved solely for the cash. Despite being on a big wedge in Newcastle, despite the comforts of home, despite working in the Premier League. He jacked us in as soon as a big money off came in. Which begs the questions, why didn't he just go to China as soon as he left Real Madrid?

Also, given Ashley has a history of parsimony, has a history of undermining managers, has a history of lying, has a history of trying to operate on the cheap, has a history of lacking any kind of ambition for the club, is it so much of a stretch to believe that Benitez left because he wasn't given sufficient control over the club and couldn't see any progress under the owner?
 
Rosco said:
We're never going to agree on that subject......so lets leave it there, on the subject of Bruce the amazing thing is Fat Mike paid around £5M compensation for him to Sheff Wed and you all thought Mike was an astute businessman
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So you can't?
Go on a scum forum and ask the scruffs on their instead of posting your tripe on here
 
foolzy said:
Of course its position. If you survive one year on 36 but go down next year on 42 points, you have failed and regressed.
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If a team goes down on 42pts, that's anomalous and has only happened once in the last 20 seasons.
Put it this way, a team gets 45pts every season. 4 wins away, 10 wins at home, 3 draws. Same number of goals scored, same number of goals conceded. They can flit about the league table because of other teams. It's completely, entirely out of their hands except in the fixtures they fulfill.
Exile 1968 said:
You must be a few years younger than me. My first season ticket was 1986 and I'm early fifties. Though my first game was 1979 versus Everton (1st home game of the season and my Dad took me).

I noticed you missed out the Keegan years from 1992. Was that deliberate?
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Went to a few games, but couldn't afford to go regularly.
 
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