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NUFC thread 2021.

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sproates33 said:
I'm literally responding to what you posted, There's no 'caveats'.
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My point was that people are so wound up trying to win an argument on the interent that they'll wilfully misrepresent what is written to score points, instead of furthering the conversation.

NUFC aren't being bought by the Saudis so this is all moot. But if you lot cannot get your head around the idea that supporting investment into NUFC and the city si not the same as supporting the Saudis, then I don't know what to tell you. Sue your teachers, I guess, because they've not done their job.
Sandboy said:
I didn't think you were as mental as him, he'd have exploded by now*... you're on the right path mind

* I do enjoy reading his blog though
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I think of the people in this conversation, Sproates is the closest to explosion. What with the big fonts and all caps...
 
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The Fish said:
My point was that people are so wound up trying to win an argument on the interent that they'll wilfully misrepresent what is written to score points, instead of furthering the conversation.

NUFC aren't being bought by the Saudis so this is all moot. But if you lot cannot get your head around the idea that supporting investment into NUFC and the city si not the same as supporting the Saudis, then I don't know what to tell you. Sue your teachers, I guess, because they've not done their job.
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Eh? :lol:

You have posted above saying you missed a word out, which entirely changes the argument / point people have been making over the last 5 pages.

No caveats, no point scoring, no nothing, you posted and people responded to what you said. The error (even if it was one), was with you, nobody else.
 
sproates33 said:
You can when you stated :-

"I support a takeover and if the Saudis had bought us and pumped money into the club and the area, that's good for Newcastle United and the city."

Whilst also stating :-

"I wouldn't 'support' the Saudis whatever they did in the UK, because of what they do to their own people and the people in Yemen etc."

You cannot state that you wouldn't support the Saudis in whatever they did in the UK, when they would be purchasing your football club and putting their money into it. f***ing hell.

GET IT INTO YOUR THICK HEAD.
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This.
 
The Fish said:
My point was that people are so wound up trying to win an argument on the interent that they'll wilfully misrepresent what is written to score points, instead of furthering the conversation.

NUFC aren't being bought by the Saudis so this is all moot. But if you lot cannot get your head around the idea that supporting investment into NUFC and the city si not the same as supporting the Saudis, then I don't know what to tell you. Sue your teachers, I guess, because they've not done their job.

I think of the people in this conversation, Sproates is the closest to explosion. What with the big fonts and all caps...
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It's hard work trying to get it into someones head, that they are making a point that is completely hypocritical, when they don't realise it, post after post.

It's since then, You have actually realised you missed out a key word in your sentence, I think it's you that needs to get back to school, and/or sue your teachers.
 
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DaveH said:
Oh good. A decent thread on the management style of Steve Bruce has been merged with the abomination of the NUFC thread, because he is their current manager.

I wish the mods would stop doing this, there was some good discussion in there, some of which about his time with us, but now it is in this thread of multiple arguments and discussions running side by side.

How to kill off good discussion for no particular reason. Well done.
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Agreed.
 
sproates33 said:
Eh? :lol:

You have posted above saying you missed a word out, which entirely changes the argument / point people have been making over the last 5 pages.

No caveats, no point scoring, no nothing, you posted and people responded to what you said. The error (even if it was one), was with you, nobody else.
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My position on the Saudis is clear, I'm not supportive of them. I've been consistent on this throughout. You've tried to suggest I've changed my tune. I haven't.
 
The Fish said:
My position on the Saudis is clear, I'm not supportive of them. I've been consistent on this throughout. You've tried to suggest I've changed my tune. I haven't.
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I haven't suggested that, What i have suggested, which has been proved correct, is that your statement from what it was, to now is, significantly changes the dynamics of the argument.

You missed a key word off, not me, no-one else, don't use caveats or points scoring to try and atone for your error.
 
sproates33 said:
It's hard work trying to get it into someones head, that they are making a point that is completely hypocritical, when they don't realise it, post after post.

It's since then, You have actually realised you missed out a key word in your sentence, I think it's you that needs to get back to school, and/or sue your teachers.
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Around we go again.

You think it's impossible to hold two thoughts in your head at the same time, I don't.

This is getting us no where, and apparently there was a good conversation about Bruce, that sounds way more interesting.
 
BucketBiff said:
He’d be gone by now if the fans were allowed in. The day we finally snapped we were villains. He was throwing mud that stuck and he walked away the victim. Interesting how he ll deflect blame on this one. I always remember a Kenny Cunningham article about Bruce and his time at Birmingham. It mirrored everything that was happening at Sunderland. You can add a few more clubs to it now.
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He'll blame the players, the toxicity on social media and the press.

Was it when he was at Sunderland that the fans sang "it's never your fault" at him?
 
Back to the Bruce-Ritchie bust up, regular as clockwork Lee Ryder had his “everything’s fine he said sorry” piece up on the Chronicle website this morning 😂
 
The Fish said:
He'll blame the players, the toxicity on social media and the press.

Was it when he was at Sunderland that the fans sang "it's never your fault" at him?
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Not sure. His problem is there is no plan B. His teams go on awful runs and struggle in games and unfortunately Bruce seems unable to mix it up. Same at Villa and us.
 
sinner said:
Not sure. His problem is there is no plan B. His teams go on awful runs and struggle in games and unfortunately Bruce seems unable to mix it up. Same at Villa and us.
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There's barely a plan A.

He tried to play the same as the previous manager without a target man or pressing AM. Even though he's not very good, playing Joelinton as part of an attacking 3 would have got more out of him than as an isolated target man. We've swapped personnel, formation and system more times than any season I can remember and we've looked a mess because of it.
 
The Fish said:
The problem with this place is that I have to caveat everything for fear of someone picking on something small and expanding it.
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You don’t have to do that at all. There is no compulsion to go on a rival teams message board and justify your position. In fact there is no compulsion to come here at all.
 
jlaws said:
You don’t have to do that at all. There is no compulsion to go on a rival teams message board and justify your position. In fact there is no compulsion to come here at all.
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I like to hear informed dissenting opinions about NUFC and once you wade through the "SMELLY MAGS LOL" shit, you can find that on here.
 
The Fish said:
My position on the Saudis is clear, I'm not supportive of them. I've been consistent on this throughout. You've tried to suggest I've changed my tune. I haven't.
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Correct me if I’ve got this wrong (and I’m sure you will), so what you’re basically saying is that whilst you in no way support the saudis, you’re more than happy to turn a blind eye to their many atrocities as long as they pump money into your club in order to buy your way up the league table.
 
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