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Lancashire CEO talking about vaccination certificates to allow attendees

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I wouldn’t be against it even though it wouldn’t be great for me personally, as I probably won’t be called until July, then three weeks to take effect. I would like some clarification on its likelihood before I invest in any memberships though
 
People have completely lost their minds over this :lol:

As long as you’re vaccinated why would it bother you that other people aren’t?
 
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Not a fan of that, you’re penalising people who will be young/fit through absolutely no fault of their own.
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True but we shall see how things pan out. I think the message is though, that fans will get a chance this summer to attend
 
If they want to go down that totalitarian route I hope they get sued through discrimination legislation and end up as Durham FTECB Mark 2.

Lateral flow tests supposedly have poor sensitivity, ie they miss lots of positives - which would make them a pretty bad choice. Whereas PCR swab tests are the opposite and have bad specificity, they give lots of false positives. I'd think you'd need plenty of signed waivers with either to cover for possible injury, as well as presumably costing a fortune unless they're getting a bung from the government (which seems plausible, given they promote COVID fear porn)
 
scaly_piscine said:
If they want to go down that totalitarian route I hope they get sued through discrimination legislation and end up as Durham FTECB Mark 2.

Lateral flow tests supposedly have poor sensitivity, ie they miss lots of positives - which would make them a pretty bad choice. Whereas PCR swab tests are the opposite and have bad specificity, they give lots of false positives. I'd think you'd need plenty of signed waivers with either to cover for possible injury, as well as presumably costing a fortune unless they're getting a bung from the government (which seems plausible, given they promote COVID fear porn)
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If you caught covid, would you reject all treatment as well as giving up the opportunity for having the vaccine?
 
Ghfd said:
If you caught covid, would you reject all treatment as well as giving up the opportunity for having the vaccine?
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I sure as hell wouldn't take the vaccine if I had COVID, or could have COVID, and I'd be staying the hell away from people for a good week or more after a vaccine. The excess mortality rate and COVID death rate speak for themselves... those with the most extensive vaccination program - the UK and Israel, have virtually the worst figures. You can look for yourself on our world in data or euromomo.

So yea, I'm not taking the vaccine anyways. I doubt I'd get hospitalised either because I keep myself reasonably healthy and look after my vitamin D, and the NHS have banned HCQ via the Bill Gates funded Recovery trial which used fatal doses of HCQ and didn't record the causes of death - just the most basic numbers. So yea I think I may be better off at home given being in hospital will inevitably increase your viral load too.
 
scaly_piscine said:
I sure as hell wouldn't take the vaccine if I had COVID, or could have COVID, and I'd be staying the hell away from people for a good week or more after a vaccine. The excess mortality rate and COVID death rate speak for themselves... those with the most extensive vaccination program - the UK and Israel, have virtually the worst figures. You can look for yourself on our world in data or euromomo.

So yea, I'm not taking the vaccine anyways. I doubt I'd get hospitalised either because I keep myself reasonably healthy and look after my vitamin D, and the NHS have banned HCQ via the Bill Gates funded Recovery trial which used fatal doses of HCQ and didn't record the causes of death - just the most basic numbers. So yea I think I may be better off at home given being in hospital will inevitably increase your viral load too.
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Good to know. Please put a letter, signed, that you want no help whatsoever, so if you did catch this disease and suffer, they will know just to drive on and leave you to your hearts content.

oh and while you are on, have a trip to a covid ward and tell the ill to arise as it’s all a myth. I knew there was a reason I used the ignore feature on yourself.
 
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Ghfd said:
Good to know. Please put a letter, signed, that you want no help whatsoever, so if you did catch this disease and suffer, they will know just to drive on and leave you to your hearts content.

oh and while you are on, have a trip to a covid ward and tell the ill to arise as it’s all a myth. I knew there was a reason I used the ignore feature on yourself.
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So in short, you've thrown up a ridiculous straw man argument because you're too ignorant to argue with what I **actually** said.

My girlfriend literally runs a COVID ward. My sister's long term partner was an army medic. My sister knows more about medical stuff than most nurses & a lot of doctors. Oh and I actually look at the data properly, because I have a big brain.

I'll reiterate again, for those who can read. The empirical data so far suggest the vaccine has increased excess mortality and COVID deaths. Could be a coincidence, might not be. We'll know more as the vaccine trickles down to the lower age groups - euromomo's excess mortality data covers age demographics. If the vaccine is triggering deaths, and there's a lot of anecdotal stuff suggesting it does, then it will spike the excess mortality in lower age groups in a way that can't be attributed to COVID. It also is likely there's a potentially fatal consequence to getting COVID and the COVID vaccine at the same time, that interaction is also muddying things at the moment.

Medical treatments are not black and white. They have negative consequences, as does the thing they're supposed to treat. There's a significant risk in getting the vaccine, and little risk with COVID for healthy people. It's a no-brainer. Unfortunately too many people don't appear to have a brain.
 
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I wonder :neutral:
scaly_piscine said:
So in short, you've thrown up a ridiculous straw man argument because you're too ignorant to argue with what I **actually** said.

My girlfriend literally runs a COVID ward. My sister's long term partner was an army medic. My sister knows more about medical stuff than most nurses & a lot of doctors. Oh and I actually look at the data properly, because I have a big brain.

I'll reiterate again, for those who can read. The empirical data so far suggest the vaccine has increased excess mortality and COVID deaths. Could be a coincidence, might not be. We'll know more as the vaccine trickles down to the lower age groups - euromomo's excess mortality data covers age demographics. If the vaccine is triggering deaths, and there's a lot of anecdotal stuff suggesting it does, then it will spike the excess mortality in lower age groups in a way that can't be attributed to COVID. It also is likely there's a potentially fatal consequence to getting COVID and the COVID vaccine at the same time, that interaction is also muddying things at the moment.

Medical treatments are not black and white. They have negative consequences, as does the thing they're supposed to treat. There's a significant risk in getting the vaccine, and little risk with COVID for healthy people. It's a no-brainer. Unfortunately too many people don't appear to have a brain.
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Don’t believe a word you say. A proven fantasist and troll. Please use your option to ignore me as I have done with you.

goodbye
 
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