raindog
Winger
Both the American IPA and Amber Ale Excellent and in bottles too. Tins seem to interfere with taste for me.Alcohol is flavourless, if they just stopped the fermentation at 4.6%, there would be more carbs left & therefore more flavour, so they must have changed "the recipe" too, probably more maize & less hops to suit the crappy over-sweet modern diet. Most mass-produced, non-secondary-fermented Lager is shite & "Pilseners" are a shadow of real Pilsen beer.
Drink Real Ale & you're also not paying for massive marketing campaigns, but you might have to "re-educate" your pallette. I sometimes drink a generic supermarket ale, like Lidl Amber Ale with 5% alcohol. Not exactly special, but certainly not "tasteless" & cheaper than heavily advertised branded crap.