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June to July 2020 - NUFC

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Guinness Guzzler said:
I think investment in the region is all good. Regardless of where it is, it creates jobs for the region. I work for a construction company and if there's a project in Newcastle it will employ a lot of Sunderland workers and vice versa. I don't really see that as a reason to approve a takeover though and if I had moral objections to the Saudi regime, I'd still have them regardless of whether they were going to create employment. And anyway, they weren't going to do it for the greater good, they must have thought there was money to be made. In which case surely they could have done it without buying the club first?
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Absolutely agree that any potential employment uptake, certainly in current climate would only be a good thing.
Granted they wouldn’t be doing it for the greater good, who does ?
They’d have looked to have made profit from any investment out of the football club but if that put people in jobs and counters the rapidly rising unemployment then that would have only been a good thing.
Of course it’s hypothetical and not happening anyway but if PIF investment put 1000 Sunderland fans in work then that would be a huge bonus to the region.
Likewise, and as I said earlier, I’d gladly celebrate a SAFC takeover if it meant an uplift in the area and opportunities from that.
 
skullmeister said:
Its not all down to the premier league though - the mags have conveniently ignored the second part of the Saudi statement in that the commercial conditions had also changed since the process to buy had started:

" ...coupled with global uncertainty has rendered the potential investment no longer commercially viable”
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That reads to me that either it was always about coining it in or simply saving face because they'd been knocked back
 
skullmeister said:
Its not all down to the premier league though - the mags have conveniently ignored the second part of the Saudi statement in that the commercial conditions had also changed since the process to buy had started:

" ...coupled with global uncertainty has rendered the potential investment no longer commercially viable”
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Doesnt fit their agenda.

The Saudis have not passed the test due to Piracy and probably human rights. They would not announce that and in return for not making it public by the PL they have asked to make it look like they've walked away. They save face, the PL dont have to publicly embarrass them, Ashley get £17M and all the bad PR he had at the start of the virus gets forgotten and the Mags dont blame him. Win win win. The Saudis will buy Marseille.

That's my take for what it's worth
 
mad cyril said:
Absolutely agree that any potential employment uptake, certainly in current climate would only be a good thing.
Granted they wouldn’t be doing it for the greater good, who does ?
They’d have looked to have made profit from any investment out of the football club but if that put people in jobs and counters the rapidly rising unemployment then that would have only been a good thing.
Of course it’s hypothetical and not happening anyway but if PIF investment put 1000 Sunderland fans in work then that would be a huge bonus to the region.
Likewise, and as I said earlier, I’d gladly celebrate a SAFC takeover if it meant an uplift in the area and opportunities from that.
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As already stated to you earlier, that would have been in Newcastle, which is hardly crying out for City centre investment, certainly not in comparison to sunderland. There would have been nothing to gain from this takeover from a sunderland fan point of view and even less so from a development view as it would have almost certainly have made the region even more Newcastle / Gateshead centric than it already is. If they'd bought us and developed this city you'd have a very valid point. I also doubt many Newcastle fans would welcome that.
 
The Fish said:
It was mentioned before. A lot. 'patient approach', 'investment in the area' even the inclusion of the Rueben Brothers was an indication of the direction it was going.
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Had it been, or if it becomes, the Rueben Bros alone then that is something to envy. But the image washing of the Saudis is another thing altogether. That lot are truly repulsive, and have made no secret down the decades of their contempt for the moral code of Western societies. I've been there, and elsewhere in the middle east. They are awful places, kept going by oil income, (fair enough), de facto slavery, not fair enough and by a distaste for America and the west in general.

Why the Rueben Bros would ever consider working with Saudis in the first place is another, baffling matter. There is nothing the Arab states hate more than Jewish people. It is a central tenet of islam.
 
Exile 1968 said:
Thanks for sticking up for the Baldies Janey. Difference between this Baldee and that Baldee is hes a self publishing wannabe who's thick as clarts. I'm neither a wannabe or self publicist 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I know you aren’t. Neither are the other baldies I know that are some of me best mates.
And as if I’d even entertain a self centred baldie like Wraith 🤣🤣
 
wigwams said:
As already stated to you earlier, that would have been in Newcastle, which is hardly crying out for City centre investment, certainly not in comparison to sunderland. There would have been nothing to gain from this takeover from a sunderland fan point of view and even less so from a development view as it would have almost certainly have made the region even more Newcastle / Gateshead centric than it already is. If they'd bought us and developed this city you'd have a very valid point. I also doubt many Newcastle fans would welcome that.
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I certainly would welcome investment in a Sunderland, I spend a lot of time there as do a lot of others. Likewise countless Sunderland folk enjoy the investment that has gone into Newcastle. It’s very much a good thing.
It’s not all about football, to me it’s not anyway.
 
MADBOB THE MAKEM said:
The same guy who told me it would never happen, 2 month ago, and i got laughed at, told me this lot have bid less than her lot, and he will sell. but i/he was right
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£17m less perchance?
rowley2 said:
Had it been, or if it becomes, the Rueben Bros alone then that is something to envy. But the image washing of the Saudis is another thing altogether. That lot are truly repulsive, and have made no secret down the decades of their contempt for the moral code of Western societies. I've been there, and elsewhere in the middle east. They are awful places, kept going by oil income, (fair enough), de facto slavery, not fair enough and by a distaste for America and the west in general.

Why the Rueben Bros would ever consider working with Saudis in the first place is another, baffling matter. There is nothing the Arab states hate more than Jewish people. It is a central tenet of islam.
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And they're all hypocritical bastards who hammer the whisky the minute the plane leaves Saudi airspace. They used to announce it over the tannoy.
 
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